Waves on a Cylinder - Solutions & Analysis

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The discussion revolves around wave behavior on a cylindrical surface, specifically focusing on the general superposition of solutions and the implications of initial conditions such as zero initial velocity. Participants are exploring the mathematical representation of waves and the conditions for creating nodes at specific angles.

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  • Participants are questioning the restriction of wave numbers to positive integers and the assumption of zero initial velocity. There are attempts to construct specific superpositions of wave solutions to achieve desired wave characteristics, such as nodes at specific angles.

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Some participants have provided guidance on forming wave superpositions and the mathematical expressions involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of different values of wave numbers and the conditions for standing waves. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating constraints related to the mathematical formulation of wave behavior and the specific conditions required for the problem, such as the creation of nodes and the implications of initial conditions.

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Not sure what they mean by general superposition of solutions...Do i use D'alembert's solution whereby I assume initial velocity = 0, and therefore:

z = z(θ-ct) + z(θ+ct)
 
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Why are you restricting k to positive integers only?


unscientific said:
Not sure what they mean by general superposition of solutions...Do i use D'alembert's solution whereby I assume initial velocity = 0, and therefore:

z = z(θ-ct) + z(θ+ct)

I don't understand the assumption of zero initial velocity.
You want to construct a specific superposition of solutions for ω2 that will create a "node" at θ = π/3.
 
TSny said:
Why are you restricting k to positive integers only?




I don't understand the assumption of zero initial velocity.
You want to construct a specific superposition of solutions for ω2 that will create a "node" at θ = π/3.

i'm not sure how to create that superposition do i use A1*exp(kθ-ωt) + A2*exp(k+ωt) or something?
 
What are the two values of k corresponding to ω2?

Superimpose two waves with those values of k. Note that you do not want to change the sign of the ωt term in the exponential. After forming the superposition, you will be able to factor out a common factor of e-iωt.

You might want to review the concept of "standing waves"on a string.
 
TSny said:
What are the two values of k corresponding to ω2?

Superimpose two waves with those values of k. Note that you do not want to change the sign of the ωt term in the exponential. After forming the superposition, you will be able to factor out a common factor of e-iωt.

You might want to review the concept of "standing waves"on a string.

The '-ωt' term involves the velocity of the wave, so you must superimpose:

A1*ei(-kx-ωt) + A2*ei(kx-ωt)

so that the waves destructively superimpose.
 
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Is this correct??
 
That looks good to me. You want to limit the value of n such that you don't repeat the same positions on the cylinder.
 

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