Weight Attatched to string spun in horizontal circle: Find angle with horizontal

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The problem involves a stone being whirled in a horizontal circle at the end of a string, with the goal of determining the angle that the string makes with the horizontal. The context includes concepts from circular motion, centripetal acceleration, and forces acting on the stone.

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  • Participants discuss calculating centripetal acceleration and the forces acting on the stone, including tension and gravitational force. There are attempts to derive equations relating these forces and the angle of the string. Some participants question the accuracy of the calculations and suggest drawing vector diagrams to visualize the forces involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and questioning the correctness of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of vector diagrams and the relationships between the forces, but no consensus has been reached on the final angle.

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There is mention of potential inaccuracies due to rounding and the need for more precise calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the problem and the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


A 104 g stone is whirled in a horizontal circle on the end of an 83 cm long string. The stone takes 1.2 s to make each complete revolution. Determine the angle that the string makes with the horizontal.

Homework Equations


f=ma
v=(2*pi*r)/T
Centripetal acceleration=V^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm assuming I need to find the centripetal acceleration necessary to maintain circular motion. I then need to find the tension of the string and the normal force, and then find the angle needed to produce the needed centripetal acceleration.

r=.83sin(θ)
v=(2*.83sin(θ)*pi)/1.2
A=((2*.83sin(θ)*pi)/1.2)^2/(.83sin(θ))

And this is where I get stuck. I feel like the problem should be just be simple algebra and substitution, but I am having trouble finding an equation for the normal force. Am I on the right track with this?

Thanks for any assistance.
Dmjeffer
 
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ω=2π/T, so you can find ω, and hence the centripetal force using mω2r.

The horizontal component of the tension provides the centripetal force and the vertical component counteracts the weight.
 
It will help to draw a vector diagram (r,z) with gravity pulling downward (f_z = mg = m * 9.8 m/s/s) and the calculated centripetal acceleration and force acting horizontally f_r).

Remember that since the axis of rotation is vertical the centripetal force is perpendicular to it and thus horizontal.

You know the resulting vector must be in line with the string (so the tension can exactly cancel). You should then be able to write one or two equations and solve for the angle.
 
Thanks for the fast response.

So, now I have

ω=5.2

centripetal force=(.104)(5.2)^2(.83cos(θ))=2.3cos(θ)

Tcos(θ)=2.3cos(θ) : This is the horizontal component of the tension force equal to the centripetal force

T=2.3

Tsin(θ)=9.8m/s/s*.104kg : This is the vertical component of the tension equal to the force of gravity
Solving for this, I get an angle of 26 degrees, which is apparently wrong. Am I going in the right direction with this? Or am I still misunderstanding the problem?
 
It does look like you did everything correct. It could be that you need to work with more decimal places to get a more accurate answer.
 
rock.freak667 said:
It does look like you did everything correct. It could be that you need to work with more decimal places to get a more accurate answer.

Exactly right, I sincerely appreciate the help, this problem has been bugging me for a few days now.
 

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