Weight in an Elevator and Normal Force

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a person weighing 200 lbs standing on a scale in a downward-moving elevator that decelerates. Participants are discussing the implications of acceleration on the normal force read by the scale during different phases of the elevator's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between weight, normal force, and acceleration. There is a discussion about the implications of the elevator's motion on the scale reading, particularly during constant speed and deceleration. Questions arise regarding the direction of acceleration and its effect on the normal force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about acceleration and its direction. Some have offered insights based on their experiences with elevators, suggesting a productive exploration of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding units and the need for conversions, although it is noted that the teacher indicated conversions may not be necessary. The problem's wording is highlighted as crucial for understanding vector directions.

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Homework Statement



A person who normally weighs 200 lbs is standing on a scale inside of an elevator. The elevator is moving downwards at a constant speed of 7.0 m/s and then begins to slow down at a rate of 4.9 m/s^2. Before the elevator begins to decelerate, the reading of the scale is ____, and while the elevator is slowing down, the scale reads:

A. 200 lbs, 100 lbs.
B. less than 200 lbs, 300 lbs
C. less than 200 lbs, 100 lbs,
D. 200 lbs, 300 lbs.
E. 200 lbs, 200 lbs

Homework Equations



F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



All a scale knows is the normal force being exerted on it.
Initially there's no acceleration so weight is the same. That eliminates B and C. It then begins to decelerate at 4.9 m/s^2. I thought either which way acceleration is negative. Your velocity is going from being positive to less positive.

F - mg = ma
F = mg + ma
F = 200 lbs (9.8 m/s^2 - 4.9 m/s^2)
I know the units aren't right and my teacher said I wouldn't have to convert but I don't know why I would ADD 4.9 m/s^2. I thought the problem was just giving the magnitude of the deceleration.
 
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if it's slowing down, in which direction does that imply the acceleration is pointed?

also in questions like this it is possible to use your experience to answer it, that is, if you've got enough experience with elevators.
 
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Ok. I see. If velocity is moving down, in order for it to be slowing down, acceleration has to point in the opposite direction, up.
 
yep ;)

always make sure you pay close attention to the wording of a problem in order to determine the directions in which the vectors are pointed
 

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