Weight of ball/water/cylinder system as the ball falls

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of a steel ball dropped into a water-filled cylinder on a scale. The consensus is that the weight on the scale remains constant once the ball is fully submerged, as the total weight of the system (ball, water, and cylinder) acts downward throughout the process. The forces at play include gravitational force and buoyant force, which balance out when the ball is submerged. The normal force from the bottom of the cylinder does not affect the overall weight measured by the scale.

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Homework Statement



So you have a cylinder filled with water sitting on a scale. You take a steel ball and drop it in the water. So does the weight on the scale:

1)Immediately change and stay constant including when the ball comes to rest on the bottom
2)Increase immediately when the ball is fully submerged and then increase again when it hits the bottom.
3)Some thing else?

Homework Equations



F=MA
Fb=Weight of water displaced

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm thinking that the weight stays constant the whole once its fully submerged.
 
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Try to think in terms of force acting on the ball.

The ball is moving downward, and then when it hits the water, what happens?

The ball is moving downward in the water, and then when it strikes the bottom, what happens?
 
The ball starts fully submerged.

In terms of the cylinder system the total weight of the ball + water + cylinder acts downward the whole time. Does the normal force from the bottom of the cylinder change when the ball hits it? If so wouldn't that change the weight of the whole system since gravity and buoyant force are the same the whole time for the ball?
 

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