Why the large ball falls farther than the smaller one?

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The discussion revolves around a scenario where a large and a small ball, both made of the same uniform density foam, are released from a height of 100 meters. Observations indicate that the large ball falls farther than the small ball after one second. Participants explore various explanations for this phenomenon, considering factors such as gravitational force, buoyant force, and the relationship between mass and surface area.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of mass and weight, questioning whether the larger ball's greater weight could explain its farther fall. There are inquiries about the role of air resistance and buoyant forces, with some suggesting that these factors might influence the motion differently for the two balls. Others consider the relationship between mass, surface area, and volume in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives and questioning assumptions. Some have suggested that a deeper understanding of the forces at play, such as air resistance and buoyancy, is necessary. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the choices presented in the original problem statement, with no clear consensus yet on the correct explanation.

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Participants note that the problem is concept-based and does not rely on specific equations, although some express uncertainty about how to approach the problem without them. There is mention of the need for free body diagrams to clarify the forces acting on each ball.

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The actual force balance equation is $$ma=mg\left(1-\frac{\rho_a}{\rho}\right)-\rho_a\frac{v^2}{2}\pi R^2C_D$$where ##\rho_a## is the density of air, ##\rho## is the density of the ball material, v is the falling velocity of the ball, R is the radius of the ball, and ##C_D## is the air drag coefficient (assumed constant for the present development). The first term on the right hand side is the net downward force of gravity and buoyancy. The second term on the right hand side is the air resistance force.

If we divide both sides of this equation by the mass of the ball, we have
$$a=g\left(1-\frac{\rho_a}{\rho}\right)-\rho_a\frac{v^2}{2}\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)C_D$$Note that the first term on the right hand side of this equation is independent of the mass of the ball. But the second term is not. The term ##\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)## is proportional to the surface area to mass ratio of the ball. Since the mass of the ball is equal to its volume ##\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3## times its density ##\rho##, we have that $$\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)=\frac{3}{4\rho R}$$Since R is smaller for the smaller ball than for the larger ball, the expression is larger for the smaller ball than for the larger ball. That means the the effect of air resistance on the ball acceleration is greater for the smaller ball than the larger ball.
 
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Chestermiller said:
The actual force balance equation is $$ma=mg\left(1-\frac{\rho_a}{\rho}\right)-\rho_a\frac{v^2}{2}\pi R^2C_D$$where ##\rho_a## is the density of air, ##\rho## is the density of the ball material, v is the falling velocity of the ball, R is the radius of the ball, and ##C_D## is the air drag coefficient (assumed constant for the present development). The first term on the right hand side is the net downward force of gravity and buoyancy. The second term on the right hand side is the air resistance force.

If we divide both sides of this equation by the mass of the ball, we have
$$a=g\left(1-\frac{\rho_a}{\rho}\right)-\rho_a\frac{v^2}{2}\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)C_D$$Note that the first term on the right hand side of this equation is independent of the mass of the ball. But the second term is not. The term ##\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)## is proportional to the surface area to mass ratio of the ball. Since the mass of the ball is equal to its volume ##\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3## times its density ##\rho##, we have that $$\left(\frac{\pi R^2}{m}\right)=\frac{3}{4\rho R}$$Since R is smaller for the smaller ball than for the larger ball, the expression is larger for the smaller ball than for the larger ball. That means the the effect of air resistance on the ball acceleration is greater for the smaller ball than the larger ball.

It’s very clear now, Thank you!
 

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