Weird group isomorphism problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves showing that the group Z/<(a,b)> is isomorphic to Z under the condition that gcd(a,b)=1, and finding generators of Z/<(a,b)>. Participants express confusion regarding the interpretation of <(a,b)> as a subgroup of Z.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the meaning of <(a,b)> and its implications for the structure of the group. There is an exploration of whether <(a,b)> could be interpreted differently, with some suggesting it might represent a trivial group under certain conditions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the notation and its implications. Some have suggested alternative interpretations and connections to similar problems, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct understanding of the subgroup.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a related problem involving ZxZ/<(7,37)>, which may provide additional context for understanding the current problem. Participants are also grappling with the notation and definitions provided by the professor.

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Homework Statement


Show that the group Z/<(a,b)> is isomorphic to Z if gcd(a,b)=1. Find generators of Z/<(a,b)>.


2. Relevant information
Please note that the question is asking for Z/<(a,b)>, not ZxZ/<(a,b)>. I am having trouble understanding the meaning behind <(a,b)> as a subgroup of Z. My professor only gave the hint that <(a,b)> is cyclic and has an analogous case for ZxZ/<(a,b)> if gcd(a,b)=1.


The Attempt at a Solution


From my understanding, <(a,b)> should represent the set generated by a and b, ie, <(a,b)>={ n*a+m*b | n and m are integers }. However, for a and b s.t. gcd(a,b)=1, there are integers n and m such that n*a+m*b=1, in which case every element in Z can be generated from this linear combination.

This is clearly not the case since Z/<(a,b)> would be Z/Z={0}.

Does anyone have any idea what else <(a,b)> could be in this context

Thanks.
 
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Normally, the group generated by a and b is written <a,b>. Also, gcd(a,b) is sometimes written (a,b). So maybe Z/<(a,b)> is actually Z/<1>. But that doesn't help either. Where did you find this problem?
 
It came up during class following the problem ZxZ/<(7,37)>. Apparently these two problems share some similar characteristics.
 
anyone?
 
Have you tried working out the problem with ZxZ instead of Z? I'm pretty sure it should be ZxZ.
 

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