What Angle Does the Charged Mass Form with the Vertical Sheet?

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The problem involves a charged mass suspended from a string, interacting with a uniformly charged vertical sheet. Participants are tasked with finding the angle formed between the string and the vertical sheet, considering gravitational and electric forces.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the charged mass, including gravitational force and electric force from the charged sheet. There are attempts to calculate tension using the Pythagorean theorem and to derive the angle using trigonometric functions. Some participants question the correctness of calculations and the use of negative signs in the angle formula.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and suggesting alternative approaches for determining the angle. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or final answer, as participants explore different interpretations and calculations.

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Participants note the importance of unit conversion, specifically changing mass from grams to kilograms. There are also discussions regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, such as the treatment of forces and the application of trigonometric identities.

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A charged mass on the end of a light string is attached to a point on a uniformly charged vertical sheet of infinite extent. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 and the permittivity of free space is 8.85 x 10^-12 C^2/Nm^2. Find the angle [tex]\theta[/tex] the thread makes with the vertically charge sheet. Answer in units of degrees.
Given:
mass of ball= 1 g
Areal charge density of the sheet= 0.23 [tex]\mu C/m^2[/tex]
length of the string = 78.9 cm
Then force of charge= qE= q[tex]\sigma[/tex] / 2E_0
We did some of this problem in class and went through the long process of drawing a free body diagram and summing up the components, we found that it was easier to use the pythagorean theorem to solve for T.
I found that T= [tex]\sqrt (mg)^2 + (qE)^2[/tex]
So T= [tex]\sqrt 96.04 + 1.32 x 10^-5[/tex]
So T= 9.8.
Then I plugged it into what we got for the forces in the y-direction, which was [tex]\theta= cos^-1 (-mg/T)[/tex]
So theta= cos ^-1 (-9.8/9.8)
= 180 degrees which is wrong... can someone help me please?
 
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Check your calculation of [itex]q E[/itex] and [itex]mg[/itex] (note that m = 0.001 kg). What's [itex]q[/itex]?
 
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Well I stupidly forgot to change to kg, but I'm still getting the wrong answer.
[tex]T= \sqrt (mg)^2 + (qE)^2[/tex]
mg= .001 * 9.8 = .0098
qE= [tex]q \sigma/2 E_o[/tex]
qE= 2.8 x 10^-7 * 2.3 x 10^-7 / 2 * 8.85 x 10^-12
qE= .00364
T= [tex]\sqrt (.0098)^2 + (.00364)^2[/tex]
T= .0104
[tex]\theta= cos^-1 (-mg/T)[/tex]
[tex]\theta = cos^-1 (-.0098/.0104)[/tex]
[tex]\theta= 159 degrees[/tex]
 
Punchlinegirl said:
[tex]\theta= cos^-1 (-mg/T)[/tex]
What's with the minus sign?
[tex]\theta= \cos^{-1} (mg/T)[/tex]

Your calculation would be a bit easier if you used:
[tex]\theta = \tan^{-1} (qE/mg)[/tex]
(This way you don't have to calculate T.)
 

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