What are some common concerns about the SAT Subject test for Physics?

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The discussion revolves around concerns and questions regarding the SAT Subject Test for Physics, particularly from an international student's perspective. Topics include the test's relevance for college admissions, comparison of practice and actual test questions, and requirements for English proficiency tests.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the utility of the SAT Subject Test for Physics in college admissions, asking if it is merely an addition to their profile or a decisive factor.
  • Another participant notes that many US universities require proof of English proficiency, typically through tests like the SAT Reasoning Test, ACT, or TOEFL, especially for international students.
  • There is a request for clarification on whether the SAT Physics Subject Test alone could suffice for admission to average universities, while also inquiring about the necessity of additional tests for more competitive institutions.
  • Some participants suggest that the level of questions on the actual test may differ from practice tests, with one participant asking for confirmation of this point multiple times.
  • Discussion includes the mention of alternative English proficiency tests like IELTS, which may be accepted in place of TOEFL at some institutions.
  • One participant expresses concern about the perceived necessity of taking the SAT or TOEFL for admission to any foreign university, seeking confirmation on this point.
  • Another participant discusses how high scores on the SAT Physics Subject Test could be beneficial for applications to less competitive schools, while noting that for top-tier institutions, such scores may be expected rather than distinguishing.
  • A participant seeks recommendations for study materials for the SAT I, specifically asking about the SAT Official guide versus other resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessity and impact of the SAT Subject Test for Physics in college admissions, with no consensus reached on its definitive role or the comparison of test levels. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific requirements of different colleges.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the variability of college admission requirements, indicating that it may depend on the institution and its policies regarding standardized tests and English proficiency.

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SAT Subject test - Physics ??

HI everyone

I heard about SAT test few months ago. I looked at the subject which included a lot of ENGLISH. Unfortunately i am not really good in English so i considered Subject test.

But i have few questions about it.

First, What is its use. I mean, will i get admission on the bases of the score alone or is it just something like an addition o my profile just to impress the college a little bit.

Second, Is the level or questions in real test comparable to the level of practice test?
Here's the link tp physics practice test, just in case: http://sat.collegeboard.com/practice/sat-subject-test-preparation/physics"

And yes, I am not from USbut from India so are the test centers in every country?
And will my Indian citizenship effect my admission?


Thanks a lot for any replies
:)
 
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It depends on the institution to which you are applying. Many US universities- especially the upper-level ones, require some form of proof that you can speak, read, and write to a level that you can succeed there. For foreign students this is usually the SAT Reasoning test, ACT with writing, or Test of English as a Foreign language (TOEFL).

Similarily, the Physics Departments also tend to recommend or require the SAT Physics subject test if you intend on declaring a major in Physics.
 


fss said:
It depends on the institution to which you are applying. Many US universities- especially the upper-level ones, require some form of proof that you can speak, read, and write to a level that you can succeed there. For foreign students this is usually the SAT Reasoning test, ACT with writing, or Test of English as a Foreign language (TOEFL).

Similarily, the Physics Departments also tend to recommend or require the SAT Physics subject test if you intend on declaring a major in Physics.

So what you are saying is that i can get admission in some average university by just SAT physics test.
but for high level university i also need SAT reasoning test or TOEFL?

can you please tel me in which colleges i will get admission using just physics scores?

And Is the level or questions in real test comparable to the level of practice test?
 


There are more than 400 colleges in the US. It would take a lot of work for us to look at each college's requirements.
 


cupid.callin said:
So what you are saying is that i can get admission in some average university by just SAT physics test.
but for high level university i also need SAT reasoning test or TOEFL?

can you please tel me in which colleges i will get admission using just physics scores?

And Is the level or questions in real test comparable to the level of practice test?

You can do your own research and find out which colleges you're interested and what their admissions requirements are.
 


cupid.callin said:
for high level university i also need SAT reasoning test or TOEFL?

You might make it 'and' TOEFL.
If I'm not very mistaken, I think you need TOEFL compulsorily for admission to any American University. TOEFL has nothing to do with the subject tests, because it is to show your proficiency in English used as a foreign language.
And from my last visit to the Brit Council here in Bangalore, if you also want to try your hand at a non-US university outside India, such as in the UK, you might want to think of IELTS.
IELTS also holds as a replacement for TOEFL in almost all US universities, so it's like one test recognised by all countries as opposed to TOEFL's solely US recognition.
 


So conclusion is that its compulsory to give SAT 1 or TOEFL or some equivalent exam to get admission in any foreign university, right?

Will giving SAT II - Physics or chemistry give me ant benefit over other applicants.

I want to do a course in physics.

And please someone tell me this: Is the level or questions in real test comparable to the level of practice test?

(i am asking it third time and now it looks kind of awkward :shy: )
 


At almost all US Colleges/Universities you really should take either the SAT, ACT, or TOEFL. There are some "SAT optional" schools but those are a tiny minority.

As far as a benefit, it depends on how well you do and where you are applying. If you are applying to a "regular"/"less competitive" type school (some state schools, a lot of random private schools) doing very well on physics might be a distinguishing factor, particularly when combined with good grades.

However at the most competitive schools and/or at schools well known for physics (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, UChicago, MIT, Caltech, UC-Berkeley, WPI, RPI, etc.) doing very well on SAT II - Physics is more of an expectation than a distinguishing factor. If you look at accepted applicants to those schools they have "something extra" like advanced coursework, independent research, excellence in other fields, etc.
 


which book for SAT I will you guys advice?
SAT Official or something else?
 

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