What Are Some Notable Baby Books Across Different Fields?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "baby" books in various academic fields, particularly in mathematics and physics. Participants share examples of introductory texts that are considered more accessible compared to their advanced counterparts, exploring the naming conventions and the authors behind these works.

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  • Some participants define "baby" books as elementary versions of more advanced texts, citing examples like "baby Rudin" for mathematical analysis and "baby Reif" for statistical physics.
  • Others propose additional examples, such as "baby Huang" and "baby McDuff-Salamon," comparing them to their adult versions.
  • There is mention of Serge Lang's contributions to mathematical textbooks, with some humor regarding his prolific writing.
  • Participants discuss whether certain texts qualify as "baby" versions, such as those by Charles Kittel and Edwin E. Moise.
  • Some express uncertainty about whether specific books fit the criteria, leading to further exploration of titles like "An Introduction to Statistical Learning" as a "baby" version of "The Elements of Statistical Learning."
  • Humor is present in discussions about naming conventions, with playful suggestions for titles like "Elementary Elementary Particle Physics."
  • Participants reflect on the pedagogical value of these texts and the importance of maintaining a playful, curious mindset in mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of "baby" books but present multiple competing views on specific examples and their classifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding some titles and their appropriateness as "baby" versions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their examples, such as the authorship differences between "baby" and adult versions, and the varying levels of depth in the texts discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to educators, students, and anyone exploring introductory texts in mathematics and physics, as well as those curious about pedagogical approaches in these fields.

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Demystifier said:
Why? In what sense?
It was meant as a joke. If you know enough mathematicians you know what I mean, but maybe it's even some deeper truth in it, because you have to be open to just play around with ideas and puzzles. It's precisely what's killed when thinking math were like it is presented by Bourbaki. Bourbaki presents the final state of a mathematical subject but doesn't tell you anything about how you get there. In this sense it's like a very good encyclopedia to look up mathematical facts but a lousy textbook, because it's not telling you how in fact to do math.
 
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vanhees71 said:
It was meant as a joke. If you know enough mathematicians you know what I mean, but maybe it's even some deeper truth in it, because you have to be open to just play around with ideas and puzzles. It's precisely what's killed when thinking math were like it is presented by Bourbaki. Bourbaki presents the final state of a mathematical subject but doesn't tell you anything about how you get there. In this sense it's like a very good encyclopedia to look up mathematical facts but a lousy textbook, because it's not telling you how in fact to do math.
Nicolas Bourbaki is a pseudonym that is referential to a group of math guys, including Henri Cartan and André Weil ##-## it's math written by commitee, wherefore it's not as apt to show the individual journey by which the author arrived at a conclusion ##-## please imagine what might have happened to Newton's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_Fluxionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_Fluxions if he had closely collaborated with Leibniz on single variable calculus . . .
 
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Sure. I don't critizize the great work by the Bourbaki group but I don't recommend to take these books (and similar textbooks written in this style) as textbooks.

I guess Newton and Leibniz wouldn't have been able to write a coauthored book at all. I'd rather guess one would have rather murdered the other. I'm not sure, whether the two arch enemies ever met in person ;-)).
 
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