What Are Some Overlooked Physics Concepts in Wrestling and Other Combat Sports?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying overlooked physics concepts relevant to wrestling and other combat sports, including Judo, Shuai Jiao, and Greco Roman wrestling. Participants explore various physical principles that could be applied to these sports, focusing on both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest exploring concepts such as leverage and rotation when lifting an opponent off the ground.
  • Fulcrum, rotation, and momentum are identified as basic concepts already considered by some participants.
  • One participant mentions the importance of spreading weight when falling in Judo and transforming kinetic energy into sound to reduce shock upon landing.
  • There is a proposal to analyze how landing techniques can extend the time or distance over which momentum changes, thereby minimizing impact force.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that the psychological effect of slapping the mat may play a role in pain perception during falls.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of the physics knowledge of the original poster, questioning their familiarity with the laws of motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and concepts, but there is no consensus on a definitive list of overlooked physics concepts. Multiple viewpoints and suggestions remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference a video that purportedly contains mistakes regarding the physics of wrestling, indicating potential limitations in the sources being discussed. There is also uncertainty regarding the completeness of the physics concepts identified by participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or enthusiasts interested in the intersection of physics and combat sports, particularly those looking for innovative ways to apply physical principles in practical scenarios.

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Hi, I'm having trouble thinking some physics concept in Wrestling/Judo/Shuai Jiao/Greco Roman
Besides Gravity and friction...
Help =/
 
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coolio said:
Hi, I'm having trouble thinking some physics concept in Wrestling/Judo/Shuai Jiao/Greco Roman
Besides Gravity and friction...
Help =/

Here is a video that shows http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tc4PHCiKpiE" up the physics of wrestling (it contains substantial mistakes). I might give you some ideas, though. Maybe you could start with it and explain the correct physics.

You could focus on the advantage you get by lifting you opponent off the ground. Leverage or rotation are probably good ways to go, too.
 
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Fulcrum, Rotation, Momentum. I pretty got all the basic concept.. I don't know any other concepts besides the basic ones.
 
coolio said:
Fulcrum, Rotation, Momentum. I pretty got all the basic concept.. I don't know any other concepts besides the basic ones.

Is this for a presentation in physics course? Have you studied any physics? I see stuff you could do with the laws of motion.
 
In judo, you learn to spread your weight when falling. Even to transform falling (kinetic) energy to noise (acoustic) by slapping the mat to reduce the shock elsewhere. It would be interesting to see just what fraction of the energy is dissipated by the slap.
 
Dr Lots-o'watts said:
In judo, you learn to spread your weight when falling. Even to transform falling (kinetic) energy to noise (acoustic) by slapping the mat to reduce the shock elsewhere. It would be interesting to see just what fraction of the energy is dissipated by the slap.

Looking at how you land looks like a promising way to think about physics. You can see it either as extending the time that you change your momentum or the distance over which you change your energy to minimize the force with which the ground hits you.

I learned to slap the mat in Aikido. I think the benefit of the slap must be psychological. Sound involves tiny amounts of energy. I read somewhere recently the zen-like statement that the sound of a million conversation equals the power output of flashlight.
 
I think the release of endorphines when you shout (or swear, apparently) would take some of the pain away. Only nutters and goalkeepers like doing that sort of thing! They have no nerve endings on their bodies, I think.
But the idea of lengthening the time or distance for deceleration is a very reasonable one.
 
Fewmet said:
Is this for a presentation in physics course? Have you studied any physics? I see stuff you could do with the laws of motion.

Yeah i do have the presentation. But i still need more concepts- i only have gotten 7 total.
 

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