What are some recommended low speed airfoils for fly-by-wire projects?

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The discussion revolves around the selection of low-speed airfoils suitable for fly-by-wire projects, focusing on options that generate significant lift at low speeds. Participants share various airfoil recommendations and experiences related to their performance.

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  • One participant mentions considering the Eppler 61 and Gottingen 639 airfoils for their project.
  • Another participant suggests looking into the German 'Stork' airplane for insights on low-speed performance, sharing anecdotal experiences about its capabilities.
  • A different participant introduces the Zenith Zodiac CH701 as a STOL airplane that utilizes flaps and leading-edge slats, potentially offering useful design insights.
  • One participant notes that the geometrical structure of an airfoil also affects the lift generated, indicating a broader consideration beyond just the airfoil type.
  • Another participant recommends exploring Lissaman airfoils and mentions Michael Selig's lab at Indiana University as a resource for low-speed aerodynamics.

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Participants express various suggestions and experiences, but no consensus is reached on a single recommended airfoil. Multiple competing views and recommendations remain present throughout the discussion.

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Some participants reference specific aircraft and their performance characteristics, but details on the assumptions or conditions affecting their recommendations are not fully explored.

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i am doing a project on fly-by-wire and need a wing which creates great lift at low speed. i am got a couple choices on my hand but not sure which one to go for. can anyone suggest any others? eppler 61(?) and gottingen 639 are my choices. any offers? thanks.
 
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Welcome to PF, Mleesk.
I'm afraid that I don't know what those terms mean.
From a pilot's perspective, I'd look into whatever the German 'Stork' aeroplane used. That's the slowest thing that I've ever seen in my life. I'm old and have emphysema and arthritis, but I can probably still run faster than its take-off speed. I once saw one flying backward over a runway because it had a 20mph headwind.
 
thanks for the reply. i think this could be something i am looking for. i will look into it. thanks again.
 
Danger said:
Welcome to PF, Mleesk.
I'm afraid that I don't know what those terms mean.
From a pilot's perspective, I'd look into whatever the German 'Stork' aeroplane used. That's the slowest thing that I've ever seen in my life. I'm old and have emphysema and arthritis, but I can probably still run faster than its take-off speed. I once saw one flying backward over a runway because it had a 20mph headwind.

Is that the one that supposedly could land crossways on a berlin boulevard?
 
TVP45 said:
Is that the one that supposedly could land crossways on a berlin boulevard?

Jeez that runway was short!

Yeah, but sure was wide...

Ba dum bum.
 
Zenith Zodiac CH701

This is a stol airplane that uses flaps and leading edge slats. The designer (Chris Heinz)might even help you out with a drawing.
 
TVP45 said:
Is that the one that supposedly could land crossways on a berlin boulevard?

I haven't heard that before, but I wouldn't doubt it. With any kind of decent headwind, it was capable of VTOL performance.

Good catch, Dave. :smile:
 
not only type of airfoil, its geometrical structure also effect the lift generated
 
Danger said:
I haven't heard that before, but I wouldn't doubt it. With any kind of decent headwind, it was capable of VTOL performance.

Good catch, Dave. :smile:

I may have that bollixed up. I was thinking of Hanna Reisch's flight out of Berlin; I don't know what plane she used. The Stork was the one Skorzeny used to get Mussolini off the mountaintop prison.
 
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Try Lissaman airfoils. Micheal Selig's lab at IndianaU works with low speed aerodynamics, google it and you may find a nice airfoil there (there's a nice database).
 

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