What are the best colleges for science with a 3.5 GPA and 2020 SAT score?

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The discussion revolves around college options for a high school student aiming for a career in sciences, specifically considering a 3.5 GPA and a 2020 SAT score. Participants explore various colleges, share personal experiences, and discuss factors influencing college admissions and educational opportunities.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to improve their GPA and SAT score while exploring college options for science fields.
  • Another participant asks about preferences regarding college environment, such as urban vs. rural settings and class sizes.
  • Some participants suggest that many universities can lead to good graduate programs, regardless of the undergraduate institution.
  • A participant shares their intention to apply to the University of Washington, citing its popularity among peers.
  • Several colleges are mentioned as potential options, including University of Chicago, University of Colorado - Boulder, University of Michigan - Ann Arbor, and others.
  • One participant reflects on their experience at the University of Washington, describing a competitive atmosphere and challenges in forming study groups.
  • Another participant notes that extracurricular activities can enhance a student's application, potentially offsetting a lower GPA.

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Participants generally agree that many universities can provide pathways to graduate school, but there are differing opinions on the importance of college environment and the impact of extracurricular activities on admissions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the variability in college admissions criteria based on individual circumstances, such as extracurricular involvement, which may affect perceptions of GPA significance.

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I'm in high school right now, well the summer after 10th grade. I'm probably going to get a 3.5 GPA (i've got two years left. I'm below that right now, but I'm determined to do better the next two years. it's study habits that have held me back, and i know i can change that.) SAT is currently at 2020, but I'm going to try and raise it a little if possible.

So, that leaves me with some options. Not everything I would like, but I'm not going to be that badly off.

I want to go into sciences. Most science fields seem interesting and fun to pursue. At the very least, they seem more fun and interesting than anything else. I haven't looked into what I'd like to pursue specifically, but labwork seems good. I'd like recommendations on which colleges I should look into. I need ones which I can attend, that'll accept grades like mine.

Sort of unclear on the whole process.
 
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Well, before you get smothered with a plethora of colleges, do you have any preference? City, rural, state, region, political feel, greek life, big class rooms, small class rooms, et?
 
The most important thing to me is the level of education and opportunities that it will allow me. I want to go to a college that will allow me to become a grad student at a good school if I so choose.

I prefer urban / suburban. As long as it's not rural I can deal with it. I need some civilization somewhere, but it doesn't necessarily have to be very close.

I don't have much preference on region. I don't even care if it's in the US as long as the coursework is in English.

Class size isn't that important to me.
 
myanmar said:
want to go to a college that will allow me to become a grad student at a good school if I so choose.

You can go to a good grad school from just about any university. Also, I would wait until the end of junior year to retake the SAT. You shouldn't take it too many times, especially considering that a 2020 is pretty good.
 
I'm sort of just looking for suggestions that I can look into further.

I'm going to try to get into University of Washington. It's the college that most students in my school try to get to. It seems to be a good choice.

I haven't looked into much anything yet. Names would be nice.
 
I've been looking around. What do you think my chances are in these schools? What are your experiences with these schools? etc.
* University of Chicago
* University of Colorado - Boulder
* University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
* Pennsylvania State University - University Park
* Georgia Institute of Technology
* Carnegie Mellon
* New York University
* SUNY - Stony Brook
 
myanmar said:
I've been looking around. What do you think my chances are in these schools?

Considering that you're only halfway through high school, there's really no way to tell.
 
Good point.

Has anyone here gone to one of these schools? What did you think?
 
When I was in high-school, I only considered universities (with lots of research funding and state-of-the-art research projects... mainly done by faculty, postdocs, and graduate students). [I attended two on your list.]

Now, I see I have overlooked many "liberal-arts colleges" that could compete with universities in teaching undergraduates (and preparing them for graduate school)
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1libartco_brief.php .


By the way, is the cost of education a factor in your possible choices?
 
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Hi myanmar!

What moose said was right - you can go to grad school from just about any institution. But since you asked about experiences and impressions, I'll give you mine.

I went to University of Washington - got a BS in physics. I'll tell you how it was when I went there in the late 80s - it could be different now.

It was very, very competitive - kind of dog-eat-dog, since all of my physics classes were graded on a curve with the average set anywhere from 2.6 - 2.8. That means an 'average' student could expect to graduate with a physics GPA of about 2.7. The division secretary told me once that at the undergraduate level, the program lost about 50% of its students every year (usually to engineering).

It wasn't what I would call a friendly environment. There was very little in the way of study groups. I did try to form a few - I'm pretty social - but they never lasted. It seemed to me that people really didn't want to share their knowledge because, since each class was on the curve, helping other students just made it harder for them to get a good grade.

The environment at UW may sound a bit harsh, but I didn't go there to make make friends - I went to get a solid physics education. I feel the education I received was excellent - I graduated with every confidence that I could learn anything I set my mind to.
 
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Wow myanmar we are in pretty similar situations, same age, about the same SAT and GPA (and lack of good study habits...)

When you say "ones which I can attend, that'll accept grades like mine. " the grades that they will accept will vary slightly according to what you do outside of your schoolwork too. If you've done a lab internship and are applying as a chem major, suddenly a 3.5 doesn't look so bad to some upper tier universities.
 

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