What are the different types of power losses in a car engine?

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The discussion outlines various types of power losses in car engines, emphasizing that approximately 25% of crankshaft power is lost to accessories (4%), friction and slippage in mechanical systems (9%), and drivetrain losses (12%). Power losses vary with engine speed, with factors such as parasitic drag, windage losses, and frictional losses in bearings and gears contributing to the overall inefficiency. The conversation highlights that automatic transmissions typically incur more power loss, and estimates suggest that front-wheel drive cars may experience around 15% power loss.

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Hello, i would like to know in what ways power is loss from a car engine to the wheels and what are the percentages of the power losses that occur.
Do the power losses vary with engine speeds?
Also, how much power does the electric motor starter consume?

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power varies with RPM...so the power loss thru parasitic drag og transmission/differential would also vary. the amount is engine/ trans/diff dependent.
starter motor takes minimal electric power to turn over engine and this is replaced via alternator
 
I know that power loss due to air drag is proportional to the square of vehicle's speed.
I have read somewhere that for a gasoline engine, "of the 25 percent crankshaft power, about 4 percent is used up by accessories, 9 percent by friction and slippage in the mechanical systems (transmission and differential), leaving only about 12 percent of the fuel energy to be delivered to the wheels".
How does the power loss associated with trans/diff vary with engine speeds? Will it simply increase?

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Asking how much powerloss comes from an engine is like asking what colour are pencil crayons?

The power output and losses of an engine and transmission system, will not only vary between types (can vary a great deal) but also between units of the same typre due to manufacturing tolerances.

12% seems a very low estimate, even for poor engines.
 
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I know that power loss due to air drag is proportional to the square of vehicle's speed.
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Proportional to the cube of the vehicle's speed.

As has been said, power lost in the drivetrain is not so easy to figure out. There's windage losses (the gears, engine swinging through the oil/ oil mist) that will obviously rise with rpm, but not necessarily load. There's frictional losses in bearings and gears that will rise with rpm and load.

Each gear, each bearing, each moving part takes up a certain small percentage of the total power. The more gears (such as in 4wd and rear-wheel drive cars), the more power lost. An automatic transmission usually gives more power loss.

Good luck figuring out each individual component. The 12% mentioned is an easier way to estimate it, although it's probably being very optimistic. I've heard around 15% of power for front-wheel drive cars...
 

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