What Are the Domain and Range of These Functions?

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The discussion revolves around determining the domain and range of two functions, f(x) = (x-1)^(1/2) and g(x) = 2x^2/(x^2+1), as well as exploring the composition of these functions. Participants are seeking clarification on interval notation and the implications of function composition.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents initial attempts to find the domain and range of f and g, suggesting domain of f as (2, infinity] and range as (1, infinity], and domain of g as all real numbers with range as y >= 0.
  • Post 2 corrects the interval notation and questions the accuracy of the domain and range provided for f and g.
  • Post 3 explains the composition of functions, clarifying that f o g means applying g first and then f, and challenges the correctness of the domain and range identified in earlier posts.
  • Post 4 reflects on the plotting of points and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the domain and range, asking for clarification on what they should be.
  • Post 4 also attempts to express the compositions g o f and f o g but is unsure of the next steps.
  • Post 5 questions the validity of specific function evaluations, prompting further reflection on the defined domains.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the correct domain and range for the functions f and g, with multiple competing views and corrections being offered throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in determining the domain and range, as well as the correct application of interval notation. The discussion also highlights potential misunderstandings about function composition.

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Hey here is the question has a few parts to it.

Let f(x)= (x-1)^1/2 and g(x)= 2x^2/x^2+1
a) State the domain and range of f using interval notation.
b) State the domain and range of g using interval notation. (Hint: At
x=0, g is 0. For x(cannot=0) it helps to write g(x)=2/1+1/x^2 and
then stetch a plot of g. Since x^2>0 it follows that g(x_ is always
below 2)
c) Find and simplify the expression for y(x)=(g o f)(x) and state its
domain and range in interval notation.
d) Find and simplify the expression for z(x)=(f o g)(x) and state its
domain and range in interval notation.

for a) i sketched a graph and made an x/y chart and subbed numbers in.
2 1
5 2
10 3

then got the domain to be: X E R | x >= 2
and the Rang YE R | y >= 1

domain: (2, infinity] ?
Range: (1, infitty] ?

and for b i did that same thing with the x/y chart
and i got domain: X E R
Range: Y E R | y >= 0

the hard part here is that i don't know how to put either of them in "interval notation"

and for that c) and d) i have no clue what y(x)=(g o f)(x) is asking me to do, and also z(x)=(f o g)(x)

some help would be great ! thanks.
 
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Interval notation is something like:
(a,b) or [a,b) or (a,b] or [a,b]

I'm pretty sure that your range and domain aren't correct but you do understand interval notation.

Although you want to use the 'open' bracket for infinity:
[tex](a,\infty)[/tex]
and not
[tex](a,\infty][/tex]
since the latter indicates that [itex]\infty[/itex] is part of the set.
 
This should probably be in the homework help section.
Anyway, f o g means apply g to x first, then apply f to g.
So for example, say you have[tex]f(x) = 3x, g(x) = x^2, then f o g = f(g(x)) = f(x^2) = 3(x^2) = 3x^2[/tex]
Obviously, in general, f o g =/= g o f.
OK, now for part a and b..
The domain of a function is the set of all numbers such that that function is defined; why is it that you say the domain of [tex]f(x) = \sqrt{x-1}[/tex] is [tex][2,\infty][/tex]?
Also, what about what you found for the range? The range is the set of all points that the function hits, so to speak, whenever you give it its domain.
With the square root function, it's always greater than or equal to 0. Hence, to find its domain, you want to find all x such that [tex]\sqrt{x-1}\ge0[/tex] which you should have no problem solving.
Part B's domain is OK, but your range is off-- see below.
To write something like R, you write it as the interval [tex](-\infty,\infty)[/tex], or [tex]x\ge2[/tex] as [tex][2,\infty)[/tex] and so on and so forth.

About Part B's range-- [tex]g(x)= \frac{2x^2}{x^2+1}[/tex] can be written as [tex]g(x) = \frac{2x^2 + 2 - 2}{x^2 + 1} = 2 - \frac{2}{x^2 + 1}[/tex] (what you wrote is incorrect-- the way I'm seeing it, anyway).
From this, what can you gather from the behaviour of x, i.e. locally around 0 and as [tex]x\to \infty[/tex]?
 
ok so for part a) i siad that cause when i plotted my points it started at x=2 , so that's why i had my domain as [tex][2,\infty][/tex]

and for the rang it was the same thing, i just looked at my graph and tried to do it...

and also the same thing for b).. um I am looking at them again and i can't really see where i went wrong with the domain and range.. maybe i graphed it wrong. What should the domain and range read?


now for c)
g o f = 2(x-1)^1/2)^2 / ((x-1)^1/2)^2+1

d)

f of g = ((2x^2/x^2+1)-1)^1/2

now what the heck do i do with these, if i got them done correctly.

thanks.
 
Well, does f(1) make sense? What about f(0)?
 

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