B What are the energy conservation principles at play in a catapult launch?

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The discussion focuses on the energy conservation principles involved in a catapult launch, specifically the conversion of elastic potential energy stored in the spring into various forms of energy during the launch. The spring constant is calculated as 90.54, with the spring stretching from 0.09 to 0.225 meters, and the rock's mass is 0.205 kg. Energy is distributed among the rotational energy of the lever arm and the rock, as well as the gravitational potential energy gained by both. There are concerns about the clarity of the equations used, particularly regarding the notation for different masses and the height used for potential energy calculations. Overall, the mathematical approach is sound but requires some adjustments for accuracy.
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Im trying to calculate the velocity of a projectile on a catapult at different levels of stretch in the spring.
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This is the catapult.
At equalibrium the spring is 0.09 meters in length.

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When its fully stretched out its 0.225 meters long and I place a rock (0.205 kg) close to where my finger is on the catapult.

The catapult starts with this much energy because 1/2 * k * x^2
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90.54 is the spring constant which I got already, 0.225 is the length of the spring and i subtract 0.09 to get the stretch from equalibrium for x.
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i then subtract this because the rock slides off the lever arm before it can fully extend, 0.165 is just a random number i picked for the length of the spring when the rock slides off
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We have this:
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This energy goes to 4 things, rotational energy of the lever arm, rotational energy of the rock (since its moving in a circular motion), the gravitational potential energy gained in the rock from it's center of mass now being heigher in the air, and the same for the lever arm, it also gains potential energy.

omega for both the arm and rock will be the same since the angular velocity is same.
subscript 1 is for the lever arm; 2 is for the rock
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the rotational inertia for the lever arm will be 1/3*m*r^2
and for the rock it will be mr^2
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I plugged in some numbers, the mass of the lever arm was 0.045 kg and its length was 0.18 meters

The mass of the rock I am launching was 0.205 kg and its distance from the pivot was 0.15 meters
 
I didn't exactly ask a question when posting, but i wanted to know if my math makes sence. i hope it does
 
Your equation makes sense but it needs a modification and a clarification.
In the last equation of post #1 you use three symbols for two masses, ##m##, ##m_1## and ##m_2##. Fix that.
In that same equation you have ##h_1## and ##h_2##. One of these is the potential energy of the lever arm. How do you figure what ##h## you use for that?
 
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