What are the expectation values for position and momentum in states Ψ0 and Ψ1?

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The discussion centers on the expectation values for position and momentum in quantum states Ψ0 and Ψ1, where calculations show that both values are zero. The use of integration by parts leads to the conclusion that the expectation value for momentum is zero, which raises confusion about the validity of these results. Participants note that the integrals involve products of odd and even functions, resulting in zero values due to the properties of these functions. This consistent outcome across both states Ψ0 and Ψ1 is seen as perplexing, as having all expectation values equal to zero typically suggests an error. The conclusion emphasizes the mathematical reasoning behind these zero expectations, rooted in the nature of the wave functions involved.
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For question 2.2:

0|p|Ψ0> = ∫Ψ0 -iħ d/dx(Ψ0) =M

Using Integration by parts i get:

M = -Ψ0 iħ d/dx(Ψ0) (assuming hilbert space)

Implying the expectation values for momentum are zero , however i get all the expectation values are zero for x and momentum in both states which makes no sense :(
 
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Somali_Physicist said:
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For question 2.2:

0|p|Ψ0> = ∫Ψ0 -iħ d/dx(Ψ0) =M

Using Integration by parts i get:

M = -Ψ0 iħ d/dx(Ψ0) (assuming hilbert space)

Implying the expectation values for momentum are zero , however i get all the expectation values are zero for x and momentum in both states which makes no sense :(
I don't know whether that's correct for this question, as I haven't checked; but, why do you think it makes no sense?
 
PeroK said:
I don't know whether that's correct for this question, as I haven't checked; but, why do you think it makes no sense?
Because everything being zero normally means I am wrong.
 
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I worked out 2.2 abit and also I got that the expectation values for position and momentum for state ##\psi_0## are zero. And I think the same hold for state ##\psi_1##. It is because we always get a product of an odd and an even function in the integrals (since ##\psi_0## is even, ##\psi_0'## is odd ,##\psi_0''## is even and x is odd). So at the very end we get integrals of an odd function which gives zero.
 
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