Expectation value of the square of Momentum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of the square of momentum, , for a Gaussian wave packet. The original poster presents their calculations and expresses confusion regarding the presence of a term involving ħ/d in their final result.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a similar method used in a previous problem to compute , involving derivatives and integrals of the wave function. They express uncertainty about the validity of their result, particularly the term involving ħ/d.
  • Some participants question the presence of factors in the momentum operator and suggest that there may have been a misprint in the problem statement.
  • Others highlight the need to evaluate specific integrals and derivatives to clarify the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the calculations and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. There is recognition of a potential error regarding the factor of ħ^2 in the momentum operator, which may influence the outcome of the calculations.

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Participants note that the original problem statement may contain inaccuracies, particularly concerning the definition of the momentum operator and its associated factors. The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for resolving the issue.

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Homework Statement


The expectation value of <P^2>= -ħ∫ψ* ∂^2ψ/∂x^2 dx
For the Guassian wave-packet ψ(x)=(1/(π^1/4)(√d))e^-((x^2)/(2d^2))
Limits on all integrals are ∞ to -∞.

Homework Equations


<P^2>= -ħ∫ψ* ∂^2ψ/∂x^2 dx
ψ(x)=(1/(π^1/4)(√d))e^(iKx)-((x^2)/(2d^2))

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, the previous question was to calculate <P> given <P>=-iħ∫ψ* ∂ψ/∂x dx. I did this by calculating the partial derivative of ψ and then taking the integral of ψ* ∂ψ/∂x, then multiplying by -iħ, I got the result <P>=ħK which seemed to make sense. So I tried to take the same method to this question;
Firstly working out the second derivative of ψ, since I already know the first derivative from the first question, I simply differentiated again and found it to be the following

∂^2ψ/∂x^2 = (∂ψ/∂x)(iK-(x/d^2))-(1/d^2)ψ Used Product rule, Plugged ∂ψ/∂x and ψ back in for simplicity.

Next I simplified the Integrand by factoring out ψ.
Giving the integral -iħ∫((x^2)/(d^4))-((2iKx)/(d^2))-(K^2)-(1/(d^2))ψ*ψ dx
I from the previous question that ψ*ψ is (1/((√π)(d)))e^-((x^2)/(d^2)).

So I split this into the sum of 4 separate integrals, two had x values multipied by e^-x values, I concluded that when plugging in infinited these would each go to zero.
so left with two integrals,
<P^2>=(-ħ/((√π)(d)))(-K^2∫e^-((x^2)/(d^2))-1/(d^2) ∫e^-((x^2)/(d^2))

It is given that ∫e^-((x^2)/(d^2)) between ∞ and -∞ is (√π)(d)

So I simplify this all and get <P^2> = ħ(K^2)+(ħ/d)

I have been through my calculations a number of times and can't find and error but I can't help but think that the ħ/d term doesn't really make sense. Any thought's would be much appreciated :)
 
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Note that the operator ##\hat{p}^2## will have a factor of ##\hbar^2## rather than ##\hbar##. In your four separate integrals, did you get one that has an integrand with a factor of ##x^2##?
 
Thanks for the reply, this is why I distrust the answer that I calculated because it doesn't really agree with my value of <P>. But the only time ħ appears is in the equation given in the question, so there is no way to get ħ^2. The only x^2 i find is in the power of e, which is in each of the four integrals.
 
If ##\hat{p} = -i\hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}##, then ##\hat{p}^2 =-\hbar^2 \frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2} ##. So, there is definitely a factor of ##\hbar^2## in ##\hat{p}^2##. Maybe there was a misprint in the statement of the problem.

EDIT: If you evaluate ##\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x^2} e^{-x^2}##, then you should get a term proportional to ##x^2e^{-x^2}## as well as other terms.
 
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You're absolutely right, my bad, it is ħ^2. We are given the integral for e^-(x^2)/(d^2) as (√π)d though.
 

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