What are the first principles of integration?

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The discussion revolves around the foundational principles of integration in calculus, particularly in relation to its historical development and conceptual understanding. Participants explore the relationship between integration and derivatives, as well as historical methods of calculating areas under curves.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how integration relates to derivatives and questions whether there are first principles of integration similar to those for derivatives.
  • Another participant references a previous thread that may provide additional insights into the topic.
  • A different participant notes that methods for finding integrals date back to Archimedes, suggesting that these methods predate the development of derivatives.
  • One participant explains that integrating the derivative of a function from a to b results in the total change of the function, illustrating this with an analogy about summing steps taken over time.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the foundational principles of integration, and multiple perspectives on the historical context and conceptual understanding remain present.

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There are references to historical figures and methods, but the discussion does not clarify specific assumptions or definitions related to integration and its principles.

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I don't know much about the history of how calculus was derived, but I would believe that derivatives were first invented to find the gradient of a tangent to a curve.

From first principles in calculus, it makes sense to me how the tangent is found. However, I don't understand how mathematicians knew or discovered that while the derivatives give the gradient, the anti-derivatives (or integration) give the area under the curve.

I guess what I'm asking for is if there are any first principles of integration like there is for the tangents?
 
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Actually, the basics of finding integrals by "exhaustion" go back to Archimedes and long predate the problem of finding slopes of tangent lines (derivatives).

There were a number of different ways of finding tangent lines at the time of Newton and Leibniz. One of the things that made Newton and Leibniz the "founders" of Calculus is that they recognized that the two problems were different aspects of the same thing- in effect "inverse" calculations.
 
It makes sense that summing up the changes that the function goes through from a to b [ie: integrating the derivative of a function from a to b] will give you the total change which is f(b) - f(a).

For example, if every second I take a step either forwards or backwards, then if I sum up the steps over an hour I'll get the total distance that I walked.
 

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