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The discussion centers on the electoral significance of Hispanic and Black voters in the upcoming Obama-McCain election, highlighting that New Mexico's 5 electoral votes may not be pivotal despite its Hispanic population. Eligible Hispanic voters total approximately 17 million, while Black voters are around 24 million, compared to 151 million White voters, indicating a demographic imbalance. Concerns are raised about the potential impact of a Hispanic vice-presidential candidate for Obama, with opinions divided on whether it would significantly sway Hispanic votes. The conversation also touches on the importance of the vice-presidential picks for both candidates, especially considering McCain's age and the historical context of racial tensions surrounding Obama. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for informed discussions about voter demographics and electoral strategies as the election approaches.

Who will win the General Election?

  • Obama by over 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Obama by under 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • McCain by over 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • McCain by under 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • Total voters
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  • #751
My bad, Ivan. I hadn't seen that "lynching", but since it was accompanied by a statement urging the dissolution of an affirmative-action program that gave scholarships to minority and low-income students, I find a hard time dismissing it as a joke or a prank.
 
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  • #752
It is racism, pure and simple. And the person who did it clearly understands the racial implications of lynching. There is nothing innocent about this.
 
  • #753
turbo-1 said:
They guy who hanged Obama in effigy is an "adult" who has owned that house for years.

That one is different. And it apparently reflects a regrettable lifetime of acquired intolerance for the differences between people.

I was making my remarks solely about the Oregon Campus incident, which was apparently a cutout of Obama hung with fishing line to a branch in a tree. I rather think that was an immature student looking for inappropriate attention.
 
  • #754
It is time to declare that "liberal haters" and blatant racists are freaks and outcasts. But instead, the Republicans intentionally fuel the fire.

If some kid thinks this is a joke, then it speaks loudly of the local environment.

Btw, I have spent many hours in Newberg. Yes, this is indicative of the area. Oregon is blue, but we have many fiery red parts of the State.
 
  • #755
Ivan Seeking said:
It is time to declare that "liberal haters" and blatant racists are freaks and outcasts. But instead, the Republicans intentionally fuel the fire.

Again I don't see the profit in countering their intolerance and divisiveness with more of the same.
 
  • #756
My white nephew is a lifer in the Navy, and is being commissioned as a Chief Warrant officer this month after having been selected "Sailor of the year" at more levels than I can count (ship, carrier group, etc). He is white. His wife (also Navy lifer) is black, and his step-daughter from a previous marriage is black. I love those people, and when I see overt racism and hatred like the most radical elements of the GOP are fomenting, it makes me burn. How can I feel any respect for those psychopaths? I almost called them "animals", but that would have been wrong. Animals would never act with such hatred and evil intent.
 
  • #757
Evo said:
You went back 2 years to find a post by someone that no longer posts here? If I had caught that post then, it would have been deleted and the member warned as we don't allow such suggestions, not even jokingly. ...
Obviously all PF Mentors do not agree with the policy you state here, even now, as the reasons or political viewpoint of the post are to be considered.
 
  • #758
LowlyPion said:
Again I don't see the profit in countering their intolerance and divisiveness with more of the same.

Intolerance of intolerance is always acceptable. And this isn't about political profit. This is about truth. You can't whitewash these hateful acts and expect them to stop.

The Republicans have married themselves to racists and zealots, and then they fuel the fire. And while there are many good Republicans, they are all guilty as long as they allow this to continue.

Senator McCain appeared on Liddy's radio show last November and said, "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family... It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

That should be the end of McCain's career right there. But no, to many Republicans, this is apparently acceptable.

How many Republicans here would not vote for McCain, for this statement alone?
 
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  • #759
Wow, my favorite candidates Obama and Ron Paul are going to tag team McCain in Montana. Latest poll is O +4 (thanks to Paul).

What is going on?

http://www.newwest.net/city/article/ron_paul_to_be_on_montana_ballot/C8/L8/
 
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  • #760
Ivan Seeking said:
It is racism, pure and simple. And the person who did it clearly understands the racial implications of lynching. There is nothing innocent about this.

Agree.
 
  • #761
And what the heck is this? McCain can't even count on the racists to fall in line now days. Don't read it if you are easily offended by racial overtone.


Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support Barack Obama

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.”

“White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have ‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah.”

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2008/10/32648.php

538: On the Road: Western Pennsylvania
So a canvasser goes to a woman's door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she's planning to vote for. She isn't sure, has to ask her husband who she's voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, "We're votin' for the n***er!"

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: "We're voting for the n***er."

In this economy, racism is officially a luxury. How is John McCain going to win if he can't win those voters? John Murtha's "racist" western Pennsylvania district, where this story takes place, is some of the roughest turf in the nation. But Barack Obama is on the ground and making inroads due to unusually strong organizing leadership.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-western-pennsylvania.html
 
  • #762
An interesting poll discussion yesterday reported by NPR showed that Bush was actually not preferred by most voters even in 2004, but those who did prefer him were more likely to vote. So he won not by being the choice of more voters but by more who voted. Of course we know that in 2000 he was not even the choice of most who did vote.

So we are getting those presidents who are supported by the most active people, not the most people. This is relevant to this election as well. It does not matter if Obama is the clear choice of more Americans, as the president will be chosen by the ones who show up and whose votes are actually counted. That is apparently a different ball game in most elections from polling the favorite. I.e. those more likely voters have tended to be older and whiter.

Also here in georgia there is a concerted effort by the Republicans who control state office to challenge as many new voters as possible, conjecturally since those seem to be largely Democrats. Indeed the practice of early voting, which was initiated by Republicans in a period when it tended to favor them, has lately been criticized by those same Republicans because it is now being used by new Democratic voters.

So it may be that this election possibly like some recent ones, will be decided by who is mobilized best to actually vote, and who is excluded by technical considerations. Even the justice department has asked Georgia why they are challenging far more voters than any other state, and requested that they stop this practice.

Although fraud in voter registration has been revealed as existing, there are also less credible challenges here to such practices as "motor voter" registration, i.e. attempts to allow people to register when they take out a drivers license. The only logical reason for opposing such practices is to restrict voting to those people privileged enough to be able to register even when it is not made convenient.
 
  • #763
phoenixy said:
But Barack Obama is on the ground and making inroads due to unusually strong organizing leadership.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-western-pennsylvania.html

Yeah. How can a Community Organizer hope to win an election?
 
  • #764
You've got to start worrying about your chances when you brand your opponent a muslim terrorist sympathiser and yet both the Nazi party and Jewish groups (http://jews4change.com/) prefer him to you!
 
  • #765
I hope some of you West-coasters will TIVO the NBC news tonight and load the Palin/McCain interview onto YouTube. McCain just said that the Weathermen were terrorists who intended to destroy America. He said a bit earlier that they wanted to kill Americans. It is well-known that the Weathermen were radical vandals who went to great lengths to AVOID hurting or killing people, but wanted to make political statements against our county's rampant killings of the people of Southeast Asia.

The real domestic terrorists are the McVeighs - the people of the radical militia movements who will re-emerge if Obama is elected. And McCain/Palin are laying the groundwork for them with their divisive, hate-filled lies.

Edit: corrected spelling of little Timmy's name
 
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  • #766
Funny! Scott McClellan just endorsed Obama.
 
  • #768
McCain's antic is begging the news organizations to do a report on Gordon Liddy. I'm calling it now. Countdown to mega backlash all the way to backfireville 3..2..1..
 
  • #769
turbo-1 said:
The real domestic terrorists are the McVies - the people of the radical militia movements who will re-emerge if Obama is elected. And McCain/Palin are laying the groundwork for them with their divisive, hate-filled lies.

The Oklahoma City bombing was a domestic terrorist attack on April 19, 1995 aimed at the U.S. government in which the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, an office complex in downtown Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was bombed. The attack claimed 168 lives and left over 800 people injured. It was the first major terrorist attack and until the September 11, 2001 attacks, it was the deadliest act of terrorism on U.S. soil.

Shortly after the explosion, Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hanger stopped 26-year-old Timothy McVeigh for driving without a license plate and arrested him for that offense and for unlawfully carrying a weapon.[1] Within days after the bombing, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were both arrested for their roles in the bombing. Investigators determined that they were sympathizers of a militia movement and that their motive was to retaliate against the government's handling of the Waco and Ruby Ridge incidents (the bombing occurred on the anniversary of the Waco incident).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

What did McCains good friend, G. Gordon Liddy, have to say about this?

In 1994, after the feds stormed the branch Davidian compound in Waco, Liddy said on his radio program, "Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests. ... Kill the sons of bitches."
http://www.keloland.com/custompages/kelolandblogs/madvilletimes/index.cfm?c=2313
 
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  • #772
Ivan Seeking said:
Funny! Scott McClellan just endorsed Obama.

Here's the story from the LA Times:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/10/mcclellan-obama.html

Countdown to Crawford is the title of the story.

Less than 3 months to go until we have a new President.
 
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  • #773
So the only way for McCain to win now is if Bush endorses Obama?
 
  • #774
mgb_phys said:
So the only way for McCain to win now is if Bush endorses Obama?

The flood of Conservatives supporting Obama may have swing with the Inds and liberal Reps, and I would think that McCain's close ties to Libby should cause many McCain supporter to jump ship, but what will strike at the core of the Palin-McCain base will be, Palins $150,000 set of new clothes, her $700 hotel rooms, and expensed trips for her kids. There go the hockey moms. There goes good ole Joe. There go the reformers. Palin is a gimmick.
 
  • #775
Ivan Seeking said:
..., but what will strike at the core of the Palin-McCain base will be, Palins $150,000 set of new clothes, her $700 hotel rooms, and expensed trips for her kids. There go the hockey moms. There goes good ole Joe. There go the reformers. Palin is a gimmick.

I doubt that conservatives will be abandoning Palin because of expenses. Heck look at how Jim and Tammy Baker lived, or Jimmy Swaggart or any of their ilk.

Besides putting up a family of 7 is not that cheap in major cities. $700 a night isn't all that bad. Besides the Secret Service likely has security restrictions on where they want candidates to stay meaning major hotels with restricted access and they aren't cheap.
 
  • #776
LowlyPion said:
I doubt that conservatives will be abandoning Palin because of expenses. Heck look at how Jim and Tammy Baker lived, or Jimmy Swaggart or any of their ilk.

True... Still, her appeal as "average folk" just went out the window. This seems to undermine the entire premise of her candidacy.
 
  • #777
Why DRILL BABY DRILL

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1853252,00.html?imw=Y
How Cuba's Oil Find Could Change the US Embargo
If Cuba really does have 20 billion bbl. to drill, however, it could more easily find other interested refinery investors, like Brazil. The question is whether the U.S. will want to step off the sidelines and get a piece of the action too. Kirby Jones, head of the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association and an embargo opponent, says Tenreyro's staff has been credible in the past, and he believes the new estimate is probably accurate. "So for the U.S., this becomes an 800-lb. guerrilla knocking on everybody's door," says Jones. "With that much oil, there would be the feeling that there's a real [U.S.] price to be paid for [maintaining] the embargo. It changes Cuba's economic situation drastically and makes the U.S. less relevant."
Perhaps, but in the short run it's more likely to make the U.S. more determined to do its own offshore drilling. Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush Administration officials point to Cuba's petro fortunes as justification for opening more of America's coastline to oil production. Recent polls in U.S. coastal states like Florida support that idea, despite environmentalist complaints that both U.S. and Cuban offshore rigs will foul the Gulf of Mexico.
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That sounds more like the truth ... which is being hidden from the citizens.
 
  • #778
Nobody is going to drill for oil that costs $65 a barrel, when it sells for as much or less. Drill baby drill is a dead issue as long as the price of petro is this low.
 
  • #779
Some days back I wondered what kinds of communications are passing back and forth between the McCain campaign and the RNC and what insiders in those organizations are saying, in particular about the defections of high-profile Republicans to Obama. As for the former - apparently the lines of communication between McCain's camp and the RNC are practically non-existent. As for the latter -Politico reports that there is intense infighting and finger-pointing, and resumes are already flying - rats jumping off the sinking ship. The defections are being blamed variously on the VP choice, the horrible Bush record, McCain's inability to offer a steady response to the economic crisis, and his insistence on painting Obama as a friend of terrorists while publicly saying that he has no interst in Ayers.

Also, there is dismay among the down-ticket campaigns and the RNC in general that McCain is not using his resources to try to staunch the expected losses in the House and Senate by firing up some support in key races. The thinking is that if his campaign is in such dire straits, why not at least try to salvage some seats for his party.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14891.html
 
  • #780
Ivan Seeking said:
Nobody is going to drill for oil that costs $65 a barrel, when it sells for as much or less. Drill baby drill is a dead issue as long as the price of petro is this low.
Oil off Cuba won't cost a lot to develop since it is not deep drilling. If exploration adds to reserves, it will add value.

Cuba would also be a supplier to China, which has an interest. If China develops that area, as well as the China Sea, then it takes pressure off other markets, so that will keep prices down, which is good for consumers, but not good for producers.
 
  • #781
Politico reports that there is intense infighting and finger-pointing, and resumes are already flying - rats jumping off the sinking ship.
That is why McCain could not not attack Bush and had to call himself a maverick.

It does not matter what it cost to Cuba ... they need to oil. They will develop it.
The problem arizes if USA wants to siphon the oil field from their side before Cuba can get their drilling done.
And all the time you got diverted to thinking that DRILL BABY DRILL was aimed somewhere else and that there would not be any personnal gains or ulterior motives by the (R)
 
  • #782
LowlyPion said:
With early voting in Florida now open, MSNBC is reporting over 750,000 have already voted there. This is roughly 4% of their eligible voters already.

Big turn out => Not good for McCain.
You think that's a big deal? Try this...

2004, GA - 3.2 million votes cast (Bush won by 17%)

Today, GA - 1.0 million early votes cast

And from the latest GA poll (I don't put a lot of weight on a single poll):
(10/24/08) A new InsiderAdvantage / Poll Position survey shows Georgia is a toss-up state in both the U.S. Senate and presidential campaigns.

In the presidential race, Barack Obama has a slight edge over John McCain, although it is within the margin of error. In the U.S. Senate race, Saxby Chambliss has a 2-point edge over Jim Martin, although it, too, is within the margin of error.

Sources:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/ga/
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/earlyvotingstats08.htm
http://www.insideradvantagegeorgia....er 2008/10-24-08/Insider_Ga_Poll102419643.php
http://www.pollster.com/polls/ga/08-ga-pres-ge-mvo.php
 

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  • #783
A lot of these early voters (at least that I know of in the South) are Christian groups that have been going to great lengths to gather voters. So, it might not be a good thing for Obama.
 
  • #784
Evo said:
A lot of these early voters (at least that I know of in the South) are Christian groups that have been going to great lengths to gather voters. So, it might not be a good thing for Obama.

Than Obama ... the Community Organizer? It may be different this time.
 
  • #785
I just don't want to count my horses before the ship comes in with the eggs, as the old saying goes.
 
  • #786
Evo said:
I just don't want to count my horses before the ship comes in with the eggs, as the old saying goes.

The only thing I can do about it for sure is be sure and vote myself.
 
  • #787
Recall that Michelle Bachmann that was calling for the media to investigate whether members of congress were anti-American last week?

Here is a little blurb I ran across with some of her other statements.

TalkingPoints said:
GOP Rep. To Environmentalists: Jesus Already Saved The Planet
By Eric Kleefeld - August 12, 2008, 2:00PM

We like to keep track of the, er, intriguing sayings of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, the Christian Right champion from Minnesota. But this latest is really out there -- Bachmann says we don't need pesky environmentalists like Nancy Pelosi around, because Jesus already saved the planet!

"[Pelosi] is committed to her global warming fanaticism to the point where she has said that she's just trying to save the planet," Bachmann told the right-wing news site OneNewsNow. "We all know that someone did that over 2,000 years ago, they saved the planet -- we didn't need Nancy Pelosi to do that."

Wow.

Other recent Bachmannisms include the claim that there isn't actually any wildlife in the areas of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge where she wants more drilling, and the allegation that Democrats want high gas prices so as to force people to move into "inner cities" and "the urban core."
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/gop_rep_to_environmentalists_j.php

There is also a video from Uptake.org of Bachmann.
I'm excerpting from the transcript where she says:
UpTake.Org said:
And that's what I had mentioned in my previous response is that America is a great nation, with great values. We are equal opportunity for all. And it's because we all came here and we came together as one. Out of many one. Multi-cultural diversity says out of one many. And if we go with tribalism we will not long be one nation united under God.
http://www.theuptake.org/
(Requires registration)
 
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  • #788
McCain gets newspaper endorsement.

McCook (Neb.) Daily Gazette endorsed McCain on Thursday:

"Obama is leading in the polls, and his personal confidence and charisma is appealing.

"But the majority of southwest Nebraskans and northwest Kansans don't want to see the country shift to the left, the direction Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden, would take it, especially as it relates to the Supreme Court.

"For that reason, the McCook Daily Gazette is endorsing Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin for president and vice president."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_endorsements_6;_ylt=AlwAzsjcaywD5v_19clEyvBh24cA

Where is McCook, Nebraska you ask?

McCook is located at 40°12′19″N, 100°37′34″W (40.205228, -100.626174).[4]

According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 5.4 square miles (13.9 km²), all of it land.

The entire town has a single zip code
 
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  • #789
Michelle_Bachmann said:
Out of many one. Multi-cultural diversity says out of one many. And if we go with tribalism we will not long be one nation united under God.

Isn't the real issue that the United States is one nation under Law? One country of many people from many countries drawn together here over the proposition that all men are created equal and endowed with the inalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Just where did these people ever learn their civics and history of the country they are a part of? Where is it said that the e pluribus unum refers to cultural and religious values as opposed to human rights?

This is apparently the same fundamental misconception and ignorance that I think Palin suffers from in her odd notions of redefining the role of Vice President to be Queen of the Senate with any power to make policy in any way unless there is some unlikely deadlock.
 
  • #790
Evo said:
McCain gets newspaper endorsement.

Where is McCook, Nebraska you ask?

I guess then that it will be these islands of "real America" that will have to stand against the onslaught of the un-American urban centers.
 
  • #791
mgb_phys said:
So the only way for McCain to win now is if Bush endorses Obama?

Whewwwwww, Bush voted for McCain today.
 
  • #792
race baiting alert

Ashley Todd, the McCain volunteer who said she was assaulted in Pittsburgh Wednesday by an attacker who scratched a "B" in her cheek after learning that she was for McCain,

made the story up, police say.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/report_mccain_volunteer_who_cl.php

I don't watch TV so I don't know how the media handles the incident thus far, but here is what the Fox news VP said before the confession took place.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810240007

If Ms. Todd's allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator [Barack] Obama, not because they are racists ... but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee." That assertion was followed by another baseless claim: "If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator [John] McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting
 
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  • #793
Moderate Republicans are fleeing the sinking ship.
Boston_Globe said:
Republican former Mass. governor endorses Obama
By Holly Ramer
Associated Press Writer / October 24, 2008

CONCORD, N.H.—Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, a Republican, endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president on Friday, citing the senator's good judgment, "deep sense of calm" and "first-class political temperament."

Weld said he's never endorsed a Democrat for president before, but in the last six weeks or so, it became "close to a no-brainer." Obama has a history of bringing Democrats, Republicans and independents together and is the best choice at a time when America's standing in the world is at a low point, he said.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2008/10/24/former_mass_gov_william_weld_to_endorse_obama/
 
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  • #794
phoenixy said:
I don't watch TV so I don't know how the media handles the incident thus far, but here is what the Fox news VP said before the confession took place.

It was prominent of Fox and Friends this morning before it was found to be a hoax.

Now MSNBC has been reporting that her lie detector and the ATM surveillance cameras didn't back up her story and she confessed.

Plus the B was written backwards on her face like in a mirror.
 
  • #795
Yes, she admitted that she lied. Police say she will face charges now.
 
  • #796
LowlyPion said:
It was prominent of Fox and Friends this morning before it was found to be a hoax.
:rolleyes: Why am I not surprised.

Now MSNBC has been reporting that her lie detector and the ATM surveillance cameras didn't back up her story and she confessed.

Plus the B was written backwards on her face like in a mirror.
I caught this news item this afternoon. It was the 'backward B' that prompted skepticism among police, and other inconsistencies.

Police: McCain volunteer made up robbery story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_re_us/attack_mccain_sticker
Police suspected all along that Todd might not be telling the truth, starting with the fact that the "B" was backward, Bryant said.

"We have robbers here in Pittsburgh, but they don't generally mutilate someone's face like that," Bryant said. "They just take the money and run."

I can't see how the race can be tight at this point.
 
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  • #797
Evo said:
I just don't want to count my horses before the ship comes in with the eggs, as the old saying goes.
In the middle of the stream?
 
  • #798
Ron Howard's call to action.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d

Heh...
 
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  • #799
Evo said:
I just don't want to count my horses before the ship comes in with the eggs, as the old saying goes.
Seriously, you have a right to be concerned and cautious. The GOP has assembled caging lists and will challenge as many voter as possible in Democratic-leaning areas, slowing lines and thereby denying many the right to vote. Those who make their way through the slowed-down lines and are challenged will find themselves either unable to vote or able to cast only a provisional ballot that may or may not get counted. There are reports from Nevada that GOP-hired private get-out-the-vote campaigns are destroying Democratic registrations and/or are leading people to believe that by renewing their driver's license or some other public function, they just got registered to vote. Come election day... Surprise!

I know Obama's got a good ground-game, but he is going to need phalanxes of Democratic lawyers protecting the rights of voters on election day. When the polls are descended upon by GOP "observers" trained to disrupt the election, those nice silver-haired ladies manning the registrars' lists are going to need someone to back them up and to ensure that they are not bullied into disenfranchising eligible voters.
 
  • #800
Fried was an active member of John McCain's campaign as recently as last month, serving on a pair of campaign advisory committees.

Charles Fried supports Obama

It's the Weld endorsement that's making news, but there's been another notable defection by a Massachusetts conservative: Charles Fried, a former Solicitor General under Ronald Reagan and one of Harvard Law School's most respected conservatives, says he's already voted for Obama via absentee ballot.

Fried is a conservative of a rather libertarian bent, who, despite his work for Reagan in support of that administration's anti-abortion policies, now defends Roe v. Wade.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2008/10/charles_fried_s.html
 

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