What Are the Latest Theories on Ball Lightning and Its Mysteries?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of ball lightning, exploring its mysteries, potential theories, and the challenges associated with studying it. Participants share personal experiences, inquire about ongoing research, and reference various sources related to the topic.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recounts a personal encounter with ball lightning, describing its characteristics and expressing frustration over the lack of solutions since 2015.
  • Another participant mentions that ball lightning is extremely rare, complicating its study, and humorously suggests keeping a notepad for observations if encountered again.
  • Some participants reference Wikipedia and other sources discussing ball lightning and related phenomena, such as lightning sprites.
  • A participant introduces a theory linking ball lightning to mini black holes, but another challenges the novelty of this theory, suggesting it has been around for a long time and may not be widely accepted.
  • There is a suggestion that the laws of physics governing atmospheric processes are well understood, yet their application to complex phenomena like ball lightning remains difficult.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a general sense of frustration over the unresolved nature of ball lightning, but there are competing views on the validity and novelty of certain theories, particularly the link to mini black holes. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the theories presented.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the rarity of ball lightning, the complexity of atmospheric processes, and the potential misinterpretation of existing theories. The discussion references various sources, but the reliability and acceptance of these sources are not universally agreed upon.

Gillian McF
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Greetings from NZ...I'm a new member and a physics luddite. In 2008 I had a close encounter with what I eventually found out was Ball Lightning. I find it hard to believe that here we are 2015 and still no solution to this phenominon.
Are there any researchers out there currently working on this subject?
 
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I started with Wikipaedia back in March 2014,when I discovered its name (which I believe to be misleading). Then I moved on to other'popular' sites...ie..'Report Ball,Lightning' After having seen the real thing many of the theories I read didn't come close to explaining it. My sighting was in calm conditions, no storm activity, and not a breath of wind. It was glowing white (same intensity as the LED driving lights that the new cars come with). It was over a metre wide...perfectly spherical. It kept a constant speed of approx 35 kph (I can't translate to knots) and held a height of 5-6 meters. It also carried a straight course following our house fence line.
 
Gillian McF said:
Greetings from NZ...I'm a new member and a physics luddite. In 2008 I had a close encounter with what I eventually found out was Ball Lightning. I find it hard to believe that here we are 2015 and still no solution to this phenomenon.

Yes, it is 2015, but there are still unsolved problems. The laws of physics that govern Earth and atmospheric processes are well understood, but correctly and completely applying these laws to a system as complex as the Earth can still be a very difficult problem.

Are there any researchers out there currently working on this subject?
Chances are that your google searching and the wikipedia article have found most of what is there to find.
 
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Gillian McF said:
Greetings from NZ...I'm a new member and a physics luddite. In 2008 I had a close encounter with what I eventually found out was Ball Lightning. I find it hard to believe that here we are 2015 and still no solution to this phenominon.
Are there any researchers out there currently working on this subject?

The problem is that ball lightning is extremely rare, making it nearly impossible to study. If you run into it again, I suggest keeping a notepad handy and asking it a few questions before it disappears. ;)
 
Nugatory said:
Yes, it is 2015, but there are still unsolved problems. The laws of physics that govern Earth and atmospheric processes are well understood, but correctly and completely applying these laws to a system as complex as the Earth can still be a very difficult problem.Chances are that your google searching and the wikipedia article have found most of what is there to find.
This gentlemans theory is new...are they linked to mini black holes?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0212251.pdf
 
Drakkith said:
If you run into it again, I suggest keeping a notepad handy and asking it a few questions before it disappears. ;)

... and a camera
 
Gillian McF said:
This gentleman's theory is new...are they linked to mini black holes?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0212251.pdf

That is hardly new - the idea was floating around a quarter-century ago according to the wikipedia page. To say that it is "fringe" would be generous. We can close this thread; if anyone has further contributions that are consistent with the Physics Forums rules on acceptable sources let me know by private message.
 

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