What Are the Limits of Logical Arguments in Ontology?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of ontology, logic, and the nature of reality, particularly in relation to quantum mechanics (QM) and classical physics. Participants debate the validity of scientific theories, arguing about the nature of existence and the relationship between macroscopic and microscopic phenomena. There is a contention over the interpretation of quantum theory, with some asserting that it fails to correspond to reality as it exists, while others defend its experimental success. The conversation also touches on the philosophical implications of concepts like velocity and partless particles, with disagreements on whether concepts exist independently of the mind. The role of Buddhist logic is introduced, suggesting an alternative framework for understanding these discussions. Overall, the thread highlights a complex interplay between scientific theories, philosophical interpretations, and the limitations of human understanding in grasping the nature of reality.
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my friend marc was telling me about cartesian circles. i think this is one.

http://www.fordham.edu/gsas/phil/klima/PHRU1000/Ccircle.htm

there is a new effect i'd like to propose called the ripple effect. note how changes in tone effected the course of this thread. that's the ripple effect in effect, to the max, and in deed.

if you're a tenacious D fan, this is like the tribute to the greatest thread on this board, which is yet to come. but right now, this is my favorite thread on this board.

*unpause


did you feel that "wrinkle in time?"

oh, time, that's a can of worms. i think time is an illusion that can be controlled by your minds. call me Neo if you will, but i think we live in a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a a computer simulation within a ... well, you get the idea.

the rabbit hole never ends, alice.

woah, dude! when i scroll up and down on the page, that makes it look like a borg cube. why are we trying to assimilate others into our way of thinking when we should be open to their way of thinking as well?

and that brings me back to nash's equilibrium theory. i think it should be a code of ethics as well: do what's best for yourself and the group, dude.

carry on.

admiral out.
 
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You know...someone here claimed to be a physics teacher and a student of Buddha...that someone shows traits of neither. Name-calling, vulgarity, anger, illogic...

Hey, Greg, Tom, somebody lock this crazy thing?
 
  • #243
Originally posted by protonman
No it is true because I am interested in serious conversation while Zero is not.
So that explains the name-calling and vulgarity?

Dude, there are pages upon pages of posts refuting your ability to conduct an actual conversation.

Answer a question, if you want to be taken seriously: is human perception always accurate?
 
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hellz, no! not in my opinion. that's blind faith. i believe zero has the best of intentions.
 
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I believe we are done here.
 

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