What are the matrices B, C, D?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving symmetric and positive definite matrices, specifically focusing on expressing a quadratic form in terms of partitioned components. The original poster presents two parts: the first part involves showing a relationship involving a matrix L and its uniqueness, while the second part seeks to express a quadratic term in terms of matrices B, C, and D.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition and properties of symmetric and positive definite matrices, with some suggesting the use of Cholesky factorization. There are inquiries about the uniqueness of L and the nature of the quadratic form in part (b). Others question how to partition the matrix A and perform block multiplication to derive the matrices B, C, and D.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some express uncertainty about the methods discussed, while others are exploring the implications of matrix properties and factorization techniques. No consensus has been reached yet.

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Some participants note a lack of familiarity with Cholesky factorization and block matrix multiplication, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of needing to ensure that matrix dimensions are appropriate for the operations being considered.

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Homework Statement


Let x = (x1,x2) [itex]\in[/itex] Rn, x1 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn1, x2 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn2, n1 + n2 = n and A [itex]\in[/itex] Rnxn be symmetric and positive definite.
a) Let x0 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn. Show that we can write (x-x0)TA(x-x0) = ||L(x-x0||22. Is L unique?
b) Consider the quadratic term b = xTAx. Show that we can write b = x1TBx1 + 2x1TCx2 + x2T
Dx2, and what are the matrices B, C, D?

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The Attempt at a Solution


a) Is it using the definition of symmetric & positive defintie matrices.
b) Isn;t that just a quadratic form?
 
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For (a), perhaps you should look into the square root of a matrix and under what conditions it is unique.

For (b), you can solve this by partitioning A into appropriately sized blocks and carrying out block multiplication. And remember that A is symmetric! You'll need that fact to finish the last step.
 


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Homework Statement


Let x = (x1,x2) [itex]\in[/itex] Rn, x1 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn1, x2 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn2, n1 + n2 = n and A [itex]\in[/itex] Rnxn be symmetric and positive definite.
a) Let x0 [itex]\in[/itex] Rn. Show that we can write (x-x0)TA(x-x0) = ||L(x-x0||22. Is L unique?
b) Consider the quadratic term b = xTAx. Show that we can write b = x1TBx1 + 2x1TCx2 + x2T
Dx2, and what are the matrices B, C, D?

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The Attempt at a Solution


a) Is it using the definition of symmetric & positive defintie matrices.
b) Isn;t that just a quadratic form?

Hint for (a): Look at *Cholesky Factorization* (Google search).

RGV
 


Never done Cholesky factorization before in my life.
 


Do you mean the square root of positive definite symmetric matrix?
Not sure what you mean for b)?
 


So what? I gave a suggestion and it is up to you to take the advice or not.

RGV
 


A little stuck on b), what do you partitioning A into appropriately sized blocks and carry out block multiplication.
 


You can split matrices into blocks (they must be the appropriate sizes so that the multiplication is defined) and multiply them. It's quite helpful in some proofs and helps with notational issues.

Look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_matrix#Block_matrix_multiplication".

And yes, look into the square root of a positive semidefinite matrix. BTW, it's related to the factorization that Ray Vickson mentioned. Depending on where you read up on this, you might see that factorization and square roots mentioned in the same chapter/article/section, etc.
 
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b = xTAx = (x1 x2)TA(x1 x2)
where A has entries B = a11 C = a12 = a21 (symmetric matrix) and D = a22
b = x1TBx1 + x1TCx2 + x2TCx1 + x2TDx2
= x1TBx1 + 2x1TCx2 + x2TDx2

But how do we define B, C, D?
Is it just similar to the wiki page?
 
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Any ideas?
 

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