What Are the Physics Behind a Mid-Ice Check in Hockey?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of a mid-ice check in hockey, specifically analyzing the mechanics involved when one player collides with another. The original poster provides specific masses and velocities for the players involved, seeking to understand the forces and energy dynamics without delving into complex terminology.

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  • Participants discuss the need to consider various forces such as rotational, translational, and frictional forces. There are suggestions to visualize the scenario through diagrams and to relate the physics to Newton's laws and conservation of momentum. Some participants question the level of physics knowledge required for the discussion.

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Can someone please help me in describing the physics surrounding a mid-ice check. I am using Chara(118kg, 10m/s) hitting Crosby(87kg, 0m/s).
I just need to know the mechanics(forces and energy) without using very complicated terms.
 
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without using complicated terms? ummm well what level physics do you have?

Basically rotational /Translational/Friction based forces. Draw a skeleton of the body and start from there and draw allt he forces. Maybe account for some fluid based air circulation on the rink.
 
as in grade 10 terms so none of those subjects, more like simple forces and enegry...Newtons laws...
 
Is this homework, by any chance?
 
ummm mayb :p
 
Jaramia said:
ummm mayb :p

Ok, well in future note that we have homework forums. Also, the guidelines state that we cannot help you until you show some work. So, what physics do you know that will apply in this situation? What do you know about conservation theorems?
 
Haha, I like his approach. Next time I have a physics question I think I will do something like, what would Goldberg's (4 kg) energy be when he plays hockey on a rink (surface cylinder) with his coach at the origin pushing him with a stick (force -kr)?

Anyway, Jaramia, as cristo points out your first inclination should be conservation of momentum.
 
umm can someone relate this to the Newtons laws?
 
draw the hockey check as a stick figure animation of two players,make sure to include the joints.

And then apply what you know about Newtons laws.
 
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what formula would you use for this considering it is an elastic collision...to find the final velocity of Crosby (using the info in my initial post)
 
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or acctually if someone can find a formula to the force pushing on crosby without using momentum
 
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write down wghat equations u know
 
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wow this place has a lot of good help...
 
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Jaramia said:
wow this place has a lot of good help...

Jaramia; here at PF we will help you with your homework, but will not do it for you! You have not shown any work, or any attempt at even stating useful laws to date, although various people have asked you to. If you show some work, we will try our best to help you, but if you're not willing to do anything to help yourself, then why should someone help you?
 
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This is what I have wrote so far, i just need to know if i am generally correct in my physics terms, keep in mind that this is a simplistic grade 10 course...
 
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