What are the social and psychological forces driving apocalyptic beliefs?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of engaging with individuals who hold strong apocalyptic beliefs, particularly in the context of the December 21, 2012 prediction. Participants express frustration over the difficulty of convincing true believers of the irrationality of their views, noting that attempts to reason with them often lead to familial strife. The conversation highlights the sociological and psychological dynamics at play, suggesting that beliefs are deeply rooted and resistant to change. Some contributors argue that true believers often rationalize failures of predictions, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the social mechanisms that sustain these beliefs. The thread also touches on the idea that many people may not genuinely believe in these predictions but adhere to them due to social pressures. Overall, the discussion underscores the complexity of navigating relationships with those who hold divergent beliefs, particularly when it comes to apocalyptic scenarios.
  • #31
ImaLooser said:
In 1969 Frank Zappa predicted a Reagan presidency.

Really?

Btw, I also predicted that Bush would be elected to a third term. But I heard on the radio the other day that Barry is going to pull it off.

I can't get any of my details right.
 
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When December 22nd comes along, when we're all dead and the world is nothing but a smoking cinder, you all are going to feel pretty silly.
 
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I normally just listen to people and their beliefs and leave it at that. People need to believe these things. So if you actually manage to change someone's mind you won't make them happy anyway. They are happy believing what they want to believe.

The same is true of people who have more rational beliefs. When faced with evidence contrary to established beliefs, denial is the next reaction. Whether beliefs are rational or not, as we grow older, everyone is a true believer.

Wasn't it Einstein who said that physics progresses one death at a time?
 
  • #34
Ivan Seeking said:
Hoarding Twinkies and waiting for the world to end.

:smile:
 
  • #35
I don't personally know anyone who believes the world will end this year. There was a time a few years back when it was common to hear that the Maya had predicted it would end, but everyone I know has heard by now that 2012 is just the end of a very long cycle of star/planet movements that the Maya happened to notice and decide to keep track of.
 
  • #36
Andre said:
Still I believe there is a gradual scale between passionate preaching prophets with a holy mission, strong convinced believers, just believers because friends believe it and doubters who don't speak up preventing damage to their network. It's that social mechanism that I wanted to browse and understand.

I once could convince somebody that there are no chemtrails. So all is not lost.
Great signature Andre, and apropos.
 

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