What Are the Solutions for x(t) and y(t) in the Harmonic Oscillator Model?

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The problem involves a particle of mass m in a harmonic oscillator model, described by the equation of motion r'' + ω²r = 0. The original poster seeks to find expressions for the x(t) and y(t) components of the particle's motion in a rectangular coordinate system.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the equations for x(t) and y(t) from the differential equation, expressing x(t) as a combination of cosine and sine functions. They express uncertainty about the form of y(t) and suggest multiplying by t for linear independence, which is questioned by other participants.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the independence of the x and y components, indicating that there is no need to multiply y(t) by t. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of linear independence in the context of the solutions to the differential equation.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the solutions to second-order linear ordinary differential equations and the conditions under which linear independence applies. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the x and y components as independent solutions.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is confined to a horizontal plane. It is elastically bound to its equilibrium position by an isotropic elastic force,

F=mω^2r
Where r is the displacement of the particle from equilibrium and ω is a real constant parameter.

From Newton's law, we obtain the equation of motion:

r'' + ω^2r = 0.

In rect. coordinates r(t) = ix(t) + jy(t).

Obtain expressions for x(t) and y(t).


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The x-component of force :

Fx = -x(t)mω^2 = mx''(t)
x''(t) + x(t)ω^2 = 0
The solution to this DE is x(t) = c1cos(ωt) + c2sin(ωt)
Then I'll apply the initial conditions given in the problem to obtain the constants.

Here's the part I'm unsure about
When I solve the differential equation for the y component I get
y(t) = a1cos(ωt) + a2sin(ωt). I'm thinking I have to multiply this by t so that the solutions are linearly independent:

y(t) = a1*tcos(ωt) + a2*tsin(ωt). Is this correct?
 
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bcjochim07 said:
Here's the part I'm unsure about
When I solve the differential equation for the y component I get
y(t) = a1cos(ωt) + a2sin(ωt). I'm thinking I have to multiply this by t so that the solutions are linearly independent:

y(t) = a1*tcos(ωt) + a2*tsin(ωt). Is this correct?

No. Don't multiply by t.
 
I don't understand why. Could you please explain?

Thanks.
 
You don't understand why? What makes you think you should? It certainly can't be because x depends on those functions- the y-coordinate has nothing to do with the x-coordinate. They are completely indepedent.
 
There's no need to multiply by t. Yes, x(t) and y(t) are solutions to the same ODE, but there's no reason for them to be linearly independent; you're not going to use them as a basis in which to express other solutions of the ODE. In fact, you already used such a basis to get x and y, i.e., \cos(\omega t) and \sin(\omega t).

You're probably confusing this with a similar-looking situation encountered with some second-order linear ODEs, which can be converted to a system of coupled linear first-order equations; if the associated matrix of this system is degenerate (that is, has repeated eigenvalues), then a basis for the solution space may include such elements as t \sin(\omega t). (The reason for this is best understood as a consequence of the fact that the "degenerate" real canonical form of a matrix is the sum of the identity and a nilpotent matrix. Thus, when exponentiated, such a matrix yields a prefactor of e^t times the identity and a sum of higher-order terms in t that eventually terminates.)

As a final note, it's usually preferable to express solutions like c_1 \cos(\omega t) + c_2 \sin(\omega t) in the form A \cos(\omega t + \phi) for some phase \phi.
 

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