What Are the Standard Enthalpy and Entropy Changes for the Graphed Reaction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the standard enthalpy (ΔH) and entropy (ΔS) changes for a chemical reaction based on a provided graph. Participants are exploring the relationship between Gibbs free energy, enthalpy, and entropy, as well as the implications of temperature on these values.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to find the standard ΔH and ΔS changes from a graph related to the reaction between silver and oxygen.
  • Another participant suggests that the multiple-choice answers may not require calculations if ΔH and ΔS work together.
  • A participant notes the absence of the graph and suggests using a more appropriate image format for attachments.
  • There is a question about whether the graph shows the equilibrium constant or ΔG as a function of temperature.
  • One participant confirms that the graph depicts the temperature dependence of the standard free energy change and discusses the need to convert Celsius to Kelvin for calculations.
  • Another participant explains that the relationship is likely curved, but can be approximated linearly over a limited temperature range to determine local values of ΔH and ΔS.
  • A later reply proposes that the standard enthalpy change can be approximated from the graph at 0K, suggesting a value of approximately -31 kJ/mol, while also discussing the calculation of entropy change based on the slope of the graph.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various interpretations of the graph and the calculations needed, indicating that there is no consensus on the values of ΔH and ΔS. Some participants agree on the approach to use the graph for calculations, while others raise questions about the graph's format and content.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential issues with the graph's format and the need for temperature conversion, which may affect the calculations. The relationship between ΔG, ΔH, and ΔS is discussed in terms of linear approximation, but the actual relationship may be more complex.

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Homework Statement


My questions are based on a graph. I am trying to figure out the standard ΔH change for the graphed reaction and the standard entropy change.

(1) What is the standard enthalpy change for the graphed reaction?
(A) -31 KJ/mol
(B) 0
(C) +12 KJ/mol
(D) +11 KJ/mol

(2) What is the standard entropy change for the graphed reaction?
(A) -35 KJ/mol K
(B) 0
(C) +12 KJ/mol K
(D) +35 KJ/mol K

Homework Equations


ΔG = ΔH-TΔS

The Attempt at a Solution


I rearranged the Gibb's free energy equation to resemble a linear function. I know that the enthalpy is the y-intercept and the slope is the entropy but my answers are not matching any of possibilities. I included an attachment graph. I apologize in advance if the format is not standard for this site. Thanks in advance!
 
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Multiple choice them may not need calculations.
If (1) and (2) works together what can be the only possibility?
 
Can't see any plot in your attachment, just a reaction equation between silver and oxygen, and yes - docx is not a reasonable format. Try just an image - jpg, gif, png.
 
I presume your graph shows a plot of the equilibrium constant as a function of temperature (or 1/T). Is that correct? Or, is it a plot of ##\Delta G^0## as a function of temperature?
 
All the instructions say is: Refer to the following graph, which shows the temperature dependence of the standard free energy change for the reaction:
1/2O2+ 2Ag---> Ag2O

I have attached a jpg of the graph. I also noticed that the x-axis is in celsius, not Kelvin. Some calculations are probably required to convert. For example, I noticed that the gibb's free energy equation is linear and by rearranging: ΔG = -TΔS + ΔH. So, entropy is slope and enthalpy is y-intercept?

Please let me all know what you think of this graph and the two questions I posted in the earlier thread. Thanks!
 

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brake4country said:
All the instructions say is: Refer to the following graph, which shows the temperature dependence of the standard free energy change for the reaction:
1/2O2+ 2Ag---> Ag2O

I have attached a jpg of the graph. I also noticed that the x-axis is in celsius, not Kelvin. Some calculations are probably required to convert. For example, I noticed that the gibb's free energy equation is linear and by rearranging: ΔG = -TΔS + ΔH. So, entropy is slope and enthalpy is y-intercept?

Please let me all know what you think of this graph and the two questions I posted in the earlier thread. Thanks!
The actual relationship is going to be curved, but this graph describes the behavior over a limited range of temperatures, so it can be used to determine the local values of the standard changes in H and S. Your approach is correct. First write out the equation for ΔG as a linear function of centigrade temperature TC. Then substitute T = TC + 273. Then determine the slope and intercept of the resulting equation to get ΔH and ΔS .

Chet
 
Ok. So for the standard enthalpy change, we have to look at the values in Kelvin. Since at 0K, ΔG = ΔH, we have to look at the value for -273 C on the graph, which is approx. -31 kJ/mol. Similarly, the entropy change is slope, which was a bit tricky because picking two points on the line, the y values have to be converted to kelvin. I get -0.035 kJ/mol K, which converts to the right answer: -35 J/mol K. I hope my rationale is correct here!
 
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