What Are the Velocities of Two Carts After an Elastic Collision?

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The problem involves two carts on an air track that undergo an elastic collision. One cart has a mass of 253 g and an initial velocity of 1.80 m/s, while the other cart, weighing 232 g, is initially at rest. The goal is to determine the velocities of both carts after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the problem using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations but finds the resulting equations complicated. They express a desire for a simpler approach. Some participants question the absence of information regarding spring constants related to the spring bumpers.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. One participant has suggested an alternative relationship involving relative velocities that could simplify the calculations, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of specific information regarding spring constants and no accompanying diagram, which may affect the analysis of the collision.

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Homework Statement


Two carts equipped with spring bumpers on an air track have an elastic collision. The 253-g cart has an initial velocity of 1.80 m/s [N]. The 232-g cart is initially stationary. What is the velocity of each cart after the collision?

Homework Equations


I know because cart 2 is initially stationary:
m1v1 = m1v1' + m2v2'
and 1/2m1v1^2 = 1/2 m1v1'^2 + 1/2m2v2'^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I've been trying to solve this by rearranging the equations and subbing them into each other, but I keep ending up with really complicated equations that I can't seem to solve. Is there a simpler way to look at a problem like this? I'm fine with most collisions that aren't elastic, but the ones that are I can't do. Thanks.
 
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With regards to the spring bumpers, was there any given information in the problem about the spring constants?
 
Nothing. I posted the question verbatim, and there was no diagram either.
 
Millacol88 said:
I've been trying to solve this by rearranging the equations and subbing them into each other, but I keep ending up with really complicated equations that I can't seem to solve. Is there a simpler way to look at a problem like this? I'm fine with most collisions that aren't elastic, but the ones that are I can't do. Thanks.

The squares of the velocities in the KE formula can definitely complicate things algebraically. Another relationship that you can use in place of it (and is derivable from the conservation of momentum and KE) is that the relative velocities of the two objects after collision is equal to the negative of the relative velocities before the collision. Using variables, suppose that the initial velocities of the objects are v1 and v2, and the final velocities are u1 and u2. Then

(u2 - u1) = -(v2 - v1)

That should make your life *much* easier!
 

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