Finding Velocity of Cart 1 in Elastic Collision on Inclined Plane

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an elastic collision between two carts on an inclined plane, where Cart 1 is moving down the hill and collides with a stationary Cart 2. The scenario includes specific parameters such as the initial velocity of Cart 1, the height of the hill, and the masses of both carts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws, particularly momentum conservation, and express uncertainty about how to find the velocities after the collision. There are attempts to use kinematic equations to relate acceleration and velocity, but some participants encounter issues with negative results, indicating potential misunderstandings or missing information.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the applicability of various equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding conservation laws, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the distance traveled by Cart 1 after descending the hill before the collision, which may impact their calculations. Additionally, there is mention of the need to clarify the relationship between the velocities before and after the collision.

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Homework Statement


Cart 1 on ball-bearing wheels is moving at 4m/sec. It rolls down the hill and hits a stationary cart 2. The collision is elastic. The height of the hill is 1.02 m. Mass of Cart 1: 200 grams; Mass of Cart 2: 400 grams: Find the velocity of cart 1 at point B. [/B]

Homework Equations


m1v1+m2v2=m1v1'+m2v2'; this is all I can think of but I don't have velocity 1 or 2 prime and I'm not sure how to find either of them. I was wondering if I had to use one of the basic kinematic equations because the height of the hill was given, but I'm not sure. [/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the correct answer (6m/s) , but I would like to know how to do it and I've looked at a couple of kinematic equations with distance in them, but nothing I try seems to work. [/B]
 
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Please provide us with your attempted solution, it is not enough to simply say you know what the answer is.
 
For my attempt at finding the solution to this problem I tried to use the equation: vf^2=vi^2+2ad thinking that acceleration played a part in the cart's velocity. When I plugged in all the numbers to the variables I received a negative radical of sqrt: -3.992 which clearly wasn't the answer. After receiving this answer I looked at the picture of the diagram (which I am unable to provide) more clearly and after cart 1 moves down the hill it travels a little more before colliding with cart 2 and the distance is not told. I am unable to think an equation that would work.
 
ngu9997 said:
For my attempt at finding the solution to this problem I tried to use the equation: vf^2=vi^2+2ad thinking that acceleration played a part in the cart's velocity. When I plugged in all the numbers to the variables I received a negative radical of sqrt: -3.992 which clearly wasn't the answer. After receiving this answer I looked at the picture of the diagram (which I am unable to provide) more clearly and after cart 1 moves down the hill it travels a little more before colliding with cart 2 and the distance is not told. I am unable to think an equation that would work.
Sorry, acceleration of gravity*
 
What conservation laws do you know of? Which could be applicable here?
 
I know of the law of momentum conservation and the equation m1v1+m2v2=m1v1'+m2v2' describes this principle, and I have a good feeling that this equation would have to be used but I don't have velocity 2 prime so I can't find velocity 1 prime.
 
Could you perhaps relate them with another conservation law?
 

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