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The discussion revolves around various spontaneous thoughts and reflections from participants, primarily focusing on personal musings and philosophical inquiries. Key topics include the struggle to define causality without time, with multiple contributions exploring the relationship between cause and effect. Participants share anecdotes about daily life, such as cooking salsa and dealing with minor injuries, while also expressing concerns about work and personal responsibilities. There are humorous exchanges about misunderstandings in a chat room and light-hearted comments on past experiences. The conversation touches on deeper themes, including the challenge of proving the existence of God scientifically and the nature of belief versus empirical evidence. Overall, the thread captures a blend of casual banter, introspection, and philosophical exploration.
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Hi,

this Thread is for posting what you think at the moment. It is a nice thing :smile:

I start:

I am thinking that I should go into my bed. It is two o'clock a.m. :eek: :zzz:
 
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I am thinking i could kill a bacon sarnie, but i do not have any bacon, also i should go to bed but it will be to early as i do have work at 10 pm.
 
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.
 
I'm thinking that I need a shower because it's not just the dog that stinks after being outside. :redface:
 
humanino said:
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.

Interesting, humanino.

I was wondering about how I got something like stinging nettle inside my glove when I did my weeding today. But now I'm wondering about causality independent from time.
 
I was thinking something and now I am thinking about what I was thinking few moments ago, I can't remember.
 
humanino said:
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.

After reading your post, I thought I should get back to writing my paper.
 
I'm onto a new thought now...

I made salsa earlier today, and just now I touched my eye. After peeling myself off of the ceiling I thought, OK now I know what it's like to mace yourself.
 
lisab said:
I'm onto a new thought now...

I made salsa earlier today, and just now I touched my eye. After peeling myself off of the ceiling I thought, OK now I know what it's like to mace yourself.
:smile:
 
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I'm thinking that Theoretiker is going to have an awful time learning English from Wolram. :biggrin: :wink: I'll bet that words like sarnie are nowhere in the dictionary. :smile:
 
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Moonbear said:
I'm thinking that Theoretiker is going to have an awful time learning English from Wolram. :biggrin: :wink: I'll bet that words like sarnie are nowhere in the dictionary. :smile:
wiki is my friend
 
  • #12
I'm thinking I hope my first day on coagulation bench at the hospital goes well tomorrow and that this assignment on acute leukemias is taking forever.

New thought...it is now raining and I am wondering if I will be able to ride my bike to school tomorrow or if I shall be driving.
 
  • #13
I'm thinking about how I managed to cut my knee, and where it came from..a mystery.
 
  • #14
I am wondering if the 12 year old in the chat room who thought Cyrus was Miley Cyrus ever figured out the truth.
 
  • #15
Math Is Hard said:
I am wondering if the 12 year old in the chat room who thought Cyrus was Miley Cyrus ever figured out the truth.

Are you serious, MIH ?? (this sounds too good to be true, I hope I didn't miss anything good) :rolleyes:
 
  • #16
Math Is Hard said:
I am wondering if the 12 year old in the chat room who thought Cyrus was Miley Cyrus ever figured out the truth.

DONT SAY ANYTHING! He's going to buy 3 copies of my new album and post a picture holding them up. At which point he will mail them to me and I will return them signed with my autograph.
 
  • #17
Ah, it was much better when I told that guy in the chat room I couldn't help him because I didnt have internet access.
 
  • #18
Cyrus said:
Ah, it was much better when I told that guy in the chat room I couldn't help him because I didnt have internet access.

That was classic! :approve:
 
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"WELCOME! You've got mail!"..."GOODBYE"

Dammit, did bill pick up the phone again!?
 
  • #20
Cyrus said:
"WELCOME! You've got mail!"..."GOODBYE"

Dammit, did bill pick up the phone again!?

Those were good old days. :biggrin:
 
  • #21
~christina~ said:
Are you serious, MIH ?? (this sounds too good to be true, I hope I didn't miss anything good) :rolleyes:

where were you this morning? did I log on too late?
 
  • #22
humanino said:
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.

Interesting indeed. But in the absence of time, how does one distinguish between cause and effect, if they are relevant concepts at all? With time, cause is the event which precedes the other. If two things happen at once, but only together, then, in my view, neither is the cause nor the effect, for in a situation in which these two can be interchanged, they don't exist at all.
 
  • #23
humanino said:
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.

An observed output with no input.
 
  • #24
Cyrus said:
An observed output with no input.

I think that just counts as an "event" all by it's lonesome.
 
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What men are accused of all the time, wishful thinking on my part.
 
  • #26
Math Is Hard said:
I think that just counts as an "event" all by it's lonesome.

Exactly. And if that were to occur, causality would be violated. Something happened with nothing causing it.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
where were you this morning? did I log on too late?

Arggh I had to go out to...costco :biggrin:
 
  • #28
Werg22 said:
in the absence of time, how does one distinguish between cause and effect ?
No, but you got it backward, or I'm trying to take it backward ! Once you have a sense of causality, maybe up to an overall convention reversing cause and effect, then you get time.

One way to go would be to suppose light ray structures, or light cones, as more fundamental (Penrose-like GR way)

Another way to go (and I'm fighting with that) is to read Haag's book and/or directly Rovelli & Connes thermal time hypothesis (heard of KMS/Tomita-Takesaki ? QM way)

But anyway, I'm not sure where that's leading me... way above my head I guess :smile:

humanino likes his new crackpot status[/size]
 
  • #29
I'm wondering how I can prove God scientifically to an atheist who simply won't accept anything but rigorous experimental data. My only problem is that our understanding of the universe is so incomplete. I assert that when a TOE is found(fingers crossed for M-theory even though it still hasn't put foward anything directly experimentally verifiable. Indirect for sure, but that's never good enough. I digress as usual) we will be able to have enough insight to make claims about the real questions of existence. What do I do?
For the record, I'm a deist, not a follower of any of the establishments.
 
  • #30
C Rob said:
how I can prove God scientifically to an atheist
IMHO you need to back up a little bit and think a about this purpose, by itself. Science never answers "why?" but only "how?".

For instance, can I convince you that french cheese tastes good if you don't like it ? Maybe it's a weak analogy, but do you think you can logically prove someone that they must love you ?

Religion is a moral choice, science is also a moral choice, and I don't even think they are contradictory.
 
  • #31
I am thinking how can I get .bat, shell , javascript, or c# put a item in context menu, and .. post the clicked file to imageshack and get the uploaded file address back ..:rolleyes:

A cool project for me!
 
  • #32
I'm thinking about what I'm going to write in this text box. Ohh wait, I was a few seconds ago now.
 
  • #33
I thought that the 12.y.o.-dude was a bit older and into the joke. But now it actually got even more fun. Although he should shop for either a brain, or some street-smarts.

I am thinking about going to work for the evening shift, the weather is hotter than the place where the red guy lives, y'know the one with the pitch fork.

And now I am thinking about watching some star trek.
 
  • #34
Today will be a prolific day :smile:
 
  • #35
I'm thinking

gggggmmmblackhhhhhh

... that's about the best I can do as far as describing it.
 
  • #36
humanino said:
I'm wondering how to define causality without time. I'm sure there must be some kind of trick.
Use mirrors?

I think causality is a phenomenon of space-time, and space and time are inseparable, so one cannot of define causality without either.
 
  • #37
At the moment, I am thinking that I should close my PF windows and get to work.
 
  • #38
George Jones said:
At the moment, I am thinking that I should close my PF windows and get to work.

This is what I was thinking, but I didn't realize until I read it.
 
  • #39
George Jones said:
At the moment, I am thinking that I should close my PF windows and get to work.
No, don't leave us ! (I just read an email from my boss about the meeting in 25 min... all right, I'll go to the shower :cry:)
 
  • #40
neu said:
This is what I was thinking, but I didn't realize until I read it.

me too :redface:
 
  • #41
I'm thinking about eating while head banging to this kick *** song.
 
  • #42
Cyrus said:
Ah, it was much better when I told that guy in the chat room I couldn't help him because I didnt have internet access.

I'm thinking that I missed a good chat. I'm so annoyed I missed it. Everything I thought would take a short time yesterday ended up taking forever. :frown:
 
  • #43
I'm thinking that my muscles are sore and I'm glad that I'm done splitting and piling wood for this season.
 
  • #44
I'm wondering why our HIPAA compliant data server isn't responding to file request from our dot-one subnet.. {yea, I work in IT :rolleyes: }
 
  • #45
A certain girl with brown hair and blue eyes...

Oh, and abstract algebra. Also, come to think of it... where did I leave my keys? They're not on the floor like usual.
 
  • #46
Howers said:
A certain girl with brown hair and blue eyes...

Oh, and abstract algebra. Also, come to think of it... where did I leave my keys? They're not on the floor like usual.

...I just saw a brown-haired, blue-eyed girl driving your car...!
 
  • #47
g33kski11z said:
I'm wondering why our HIPAA compliant data server isn't responding to file request from our dot-one subnet.. {yea, I work in IT :rolleyes: }

It's VERY secure...all the data goes in and none comes out? :biggrin:
 
  • #48
Cyrus said:
Ah, it was much better when I told that guy in the chat room I couldn't help him because I didnt have internet access.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :smile::smile:
 
  • #49
C Rob said:
I'm wondering how I can prove God with personal experience to an atheist who simply won't accept anything but evidence. My only problem is that my understanding of the universe is so incomplete, so I rely on strawmen and wishful thinking.

Fixed.
 
  • #50
This stupid data base. Alway problems :mad:
 

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