What Book Do You Recommend for Somebody that Has Never Taken physics?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for books that can help someone who has never taken physics prepare for a Calculus-Based Physics course. Participants explore various resources that combine mathematical concepts with physics principles, as well as strategies for improving mathematical problem-solving skills.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for recommendations on basic physics books to succeed in Calculus-Based Physics.
  • Another participant recommends the Holt Physics book by Serway and Faughn, highlighting its balance of mathematical and conceptual thinking, as well as its vector-based approach to mechanics.
  • There is a suggestion that the physics book may also help improve mathematical problem-solving skills, though this is met with some uncertainty.
  • Some participants note that strong algebra skills and familiarity with geometry and trigonometry are essential for success in physics.
  • One participant mentions that if someone lacks certain mathematical skills, they may need to supplement their learning with a calculus text.
  • Another participant recommends "Mathematics for the Nonmathematician" by Morris Kline for its applied approach to high-school mathematics, and "How to Solve It" by George Polya for general problem-solving strategies.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational mathematics for physics but express differing opinions on the effectiveness of specific books and resources. There is no consensus on a single best approach to improving mathematical skills in relation to physics.

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Some participants mention specific mathematical skills that are necessary for physics, but there is no detailed exploration of the assumptions or limitations of these claims. The discussion does not resolve the varying opinions on the best resources for learning.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals preparing for a Calculus-Based Physics course, those seeking to improve their mathematical problem-solving skills, and educators looking for book recommendations may find this discussion beneficial.

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I am planning to take Calculus Base Physics next year, but I have never taken physics before.

What book do you recommend to learn Basic Physics and do well in calculus Base Physics?

My mathematical background...

I have taken Pre-Calculus and I got an A-. I think the class was too easy, so I am doing some Trigonometry to make sure that I am ready for my Calculus class.
 
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I recommend the Holt Physics book, by Serway and Faughn. That's the book I ended up teaching out of, and the students really liked it. I liked it, because I thought it had a good mix of mathematical and conceptual thinking. It includes the full vector-based approach to mechanics (something conspicuously lacking in some conceptual approaches). I think it's a great book for self-study.
 
Ackbeet said:
I recommend the Holt Physics book, by Serway and Faughn. That's the book I ended up teaching out of, and the students really liked it. I liked it, because I thought it had a good mix of mathematical and conceptual thinking. It includes the full vector-based approach to mechanics (something conspicuously lacking in some conceptual approaches). I think it's a great book for self-study.
thank you for the information.
 
adelin said:
thank you for the information.

You're welcome!
 
Ackbeet said:
You're welcome!

Do you think that the physics book would be able to improve my mathematics problem solving skill too?
 
adelin said:
Do you think that the physics book would be able to improve my mathematics problem solving skill too?

Some. I would point you to the http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f22/problem-solving-strategy-28/ for help solving physics problems. There's a Dynamics version specifically for vector-based problems, also on the same link.

As for math proper, typically you need very strong algebra skills, as well as a familiarity with the basics of geometry and trigonometry. That is, until you get to the real physics: calculus-based physics.
 
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They go hand-in-hand. If you are deficient or unpracticed in certain methods, you may find it difficult but not impossible. If you're completely lacking in certain mathematical skills, you made need to additionally work from a calculus text.

Problem solving as a whole will increase with the more types problems you do.

Cheers
 
Ackbeet said:
Some. I would point you to the http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f22/problem-solving-strategy-28/ for help solving physics problems. There's a Dynamics version specifically for vector-based problems, also on the same link.

As for math proper, typically you need very strong algebra skills, as well as a familiarity with the basics of geometry and trigonometry. That is, until you get to the real physics: calculus-based physics.

My main problem in math. it's when it comes to the application of the material that I have learned.

What do you recommend to read or do to improve this skills?
 
adelin said:
My main problem in math. it's when it comes to the application of the material that I have learned.

What do you recommend to read or do to improve this skills?

The most helpful book is probably Mathematics for the Nonmathematician, by Morris Kline. This does pretty much all of high-school mathematics (pre-calculus), in a very applied manner.

You might also find How to Solve It, by George Polya, helpful. This is a wonderful resource for problem-solving in general.
 

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