What CAD program for complicated parts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection of CAD programs suitable for designing complicated parts, particularly in the context of nuclear reactor components and related equipment. Participants explore various software options, their capabilities, and file format compatibility for data manipulation and analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about CAD programs that support standard data file formats and can handle 3D design for complex parts, specifically in nuclear safety applications.
  • Another participant recommends Creo Parametric, noting that it is available for free to students but may be costly for commercial use.
  • AutoCAD and SolidWorks are mentioned as potential options, with a link to a free version of SketchUp provided.
  • A participant expresses that the term "complicated" is vague and suggests that the choice of CAD software depends on specific needs and industry standards.
  • SolidWorks is described as a more affordable option but with limitations in advanced features and integration with product lifecycle management (PLM) systems.
  • High-end CAD systems like CATIA, Siemens NX, and Creo are discussed as alternatives that offer more features but come with significantly higher costs, often favored by government subcontractors for their traceability and configuration management capabilities.
  • File format compatibility is addressed, with proprietary formats noted for each CAD system, while ISO standard formats like IGES and STEP are mentioned as attempts at universality.
  • Geometry kernels, such as Parasolid, are highlighted as shared formats among different programs, which may facilitate compatibility with finite element analysis software.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the best CAD software, with no consensus reached on a single preferred program. Different needs and industry standards contribute to the varied recommendations.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the term "complicated" lacks a clear definition, which complicates the recommendation of specific CAD programs. The discussion also highlights the dependency on industry standards and specific project requirements.

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What CAD program do people use and like? What programs use a standard data file format?

It's ok if it requires me to pay. I have budget. But suggested good free programs are appreciated.

What I am looking for is a CAD program to do 3D design of complicated parts. In particular, I am a nuclear safety guy, so I am looking to do design of various parts in a nuclear reactor. But also other things like fuel transfer equipment, handling bays, storage bays, etc. I'm hoping for a nice 3D view.

Also, I am hoping to take the data out of the CAD program, manipulate it, and feed it into an analysis program. That is why I am hoping for a standard data file format that I can get the definition for, and write a program to extract the data.
 
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In my opinion, Creo Parametric is a good one. If you are a student, you can get it for free, but the commercial version is going to set you back quite a bit. How much, I don't know.
 
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"Complicated" is such a vague term it's hard to prescribe anyone program. Plus, it really depends on your needs and standards.

(NOTE: there are more systems than just these, but AFAIK these are the industry "standards")

If you're designing 3D parts, you can go with Solidworks, CATIA, Siemens NX, Creo Parametric. Solidworks is a a cheaper package, and while it can do complicated parts, it's really limited in the "other" things it can do well, such as advanced surfacing, parametric constraints, etc. Plus, there is no accepted PLM system for Solidworks for keeping track of revisions of parts, workflows, etc. although there are PLM systems like ProductCenter that integrate well. Solidworks licenses start at around $3k-5k.

Usually, if you require more features and more workbenches like tool path planning, finite element software, or tighter integration with PLM systems, you can choose from CATIA, NX, or Creo. They all have similar features but each has their good points and bad points. These are also all "high-end", meaning that they can do anything that modern CAD allows you to do, but each license starts at $30-50k. Government subcontractors usually like high-end systems like this because of traceability, options for configuration management, revision control, workflows, etc. As well, each industry usually favors a certain CAD package, although that's by no means standard. Aerospace companies usually like CATIA, but the company I work for uses Creo and I know Boeing uses NX, CATIA and Creo (but usually in different divisions of the company).

From what you described, Solidworks might be enough for what you're going to design, but I can imagine you needing other software for the product lifecycle management.

About file formats, each CAD system has their own proprietary file format. There are a whole host of reasons, but there are ISO standard file formats like IGES or STEP that try to be universal. Also, geometry kernels can be shared by many different programs (e.g. NX, Solidworks, and GibbsCAM all use the Parasolid geometry kernel), so the kernel file format (such as Parasolid file format) is often shared between programs as well. Finite element analysis programs like Femap, ANSYS, and Abaqus already import these file formats.
 
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