DOGE3500 said:
Shall we get into how unsustainable solar panels and wind turbines actually are?
We are wandering off topic and edging into the political - not a problem for me but arguably worth a different thread. As long as moderators allow I will respond - not like doing so is derailing this thread. I don't expect to change your mind but your alarmist (exaggerated) fears of being overwhelmed by renewables wastes invites and deserves a response.
Governments, businesses, engineers are all in this; science can help inform and get better outcomes but our energy choices and investments aren't decided by science. Most investment in solar and wind and batteries is now being driven by electricity companies seeking more supply at least cost - it is a relatively recent development that market economics is the primary driver of RE growth.
The conclusion of the first of the linked articles you provided supports my views on this -
Of course, the fossil fuel energy sources that solar is replacing are plenty wasteful. So while renewable energies such as solar and wind create some waste, they also relieve us of gas leaks, oil spills, coal ash and other byproducts of the fossil fuels that are dangerously warming the climate. Besides, recyclability is a problem that can be solved—and the world’s rapid transition to clean energy gives us a rare chance to address our waste problems from the ground up.
Not the intractable problem you suggest.
The second link includes this -
if decommissioned blades continue to be buried, 2.2 million tons could end up in U.S. landfills by 2050.
(I'm presuming that is 2.2 million tons per year, rather than cumulative totals.)
Compared to 300 million tons per year of US municipal waste and more than 100 million tons per year of US coal ash it looks like a much smaller problem than RE waste, RE that can make those stop. Far less toxic (not considered toxic waste) as well as
much less in quantities. We could bury all the waste from large scale solar and wind in existing coal ash pits (some already are) and we would need a map to ever find them again. The long term enviromental problems will still primarily come from the vast quantities of coal ash, which leaches nasty chemicals into groundwater.
Landfillers don't like wind turbine blades for being bulky, but the wind power industry overall is far more supportive of safe and appropriate disposal than fossil fuel interests that have far more problematic and intractable wastes and persistently oppose strong regulation. Especially the potential classification of coal ash as toxic waste.
Even a very cursory look at attempts to quantify wastes and potential wastes shows that a shift to wind and solar from fossil fuels greatly reduces total waste compared to fossil fuels - compared to what the dominant ways electricity has been and is still being made (but changing thanks to RE) - with estimates of large scale use of solar producing around 1/60th of what municipal waste does and 1/50th of the coal ash waste relying on coal power produces.
Waiting for fusion to provide a near magical fix isn't an actual option; when it is an available option we can re-assess our options in light of it. I'm doubtful of fusion; if it is so hard to do at all doing it reliably at low cost and scaling up looks unlikely, even where the bulk of development costs are borne by taxpayers rather than whoever commercialises it - but I do strongly support having ongoing taxpayer funded R&D, even for some long shots. I just expect we'll get more from R&D to make RE work better than from fusion - and get it sooner. But there are always 'opportunity costs' to consider (other things we could spend those resources on).
And we haven't even taken account of the CO2 waste from fossil fuels, which is staggeringly enormous,
vastly more than even coal ash alone - more than
all wastes added together, several times over and very nearly more by weight than
everything else our economies make.