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What causes an elementary particle to "decay" into other elementary particles? And where do these particles come from if they were not part of the original particle?
He asked about the decay of elementary particles, not nuclei.FactChecker said:I'll take an amateur stab at it:
There are opposing attractive and repelling forces, each with a probability distribution for the strength of the force. It starts out as one unit, so we know that the attractive forces are greater at that time. After a certain amount of time, the odds favor the random repelling force being greater than the attractive force at some point within that time. If that happens, it decays.
This all assumes that no other particle or energy is involved. Chain reactions are a different matter.
They are newly produced, and the original particle stops existing at the same time.mitrasoumya said:And where do these particles come from if they were not part of the original particle?
mitrasoumya said:I still want to know this: -
If a particle decays into other particles, does it not in a way suggest, that it could be a composite particle rather than an elementary particle?
No. We even have direct evidence that they cannot all be composite particles. Consider for example the following two processes:mitrasoumya said:Thanks to all.
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If a particle decays into other particles, does it not in a way suggest, that it could be a composite particle rather than an elementary particle?
I think both proton and neutron are 'composite' particles made of quarks. But what about the decay of quarks? They are supposed to be 'elementary'.mfb said:No. We even have direct evidence that they cannot all be composite particles. Consider for example the following two processes:
A free neutron decays to proton plus electron plus a neutrino: ##n \to p + e^- + \bar \nu##. Can a neutron consist of these three particles?
Two protons can combine to (proton+neutron) plus positron plus neutrino: ##p+p \to (np) + e^+ +\nu##. The first one is a deuterium nucleus. Does that mean a proton is made out of a neutron plus positron plus neutrino?
Clearly these two things can't be true together, you would run in a circle. You can even split the deuterium nucleus into proton and neutron and then watch the neutron decay via the first reaction.
And all measurements point to that. And yes, there are many of them.mitrasoumya said:They are supposed to be 'elementary'.
Conservation laws, i.e. symmetries. Symmetries dictate whether particles are stable or not.mitrasoumya said:What causes an elementary particle to "decay" into other elementary particles? And where do these particles come from if they were not part of the original particle?
mfb said:And all measurements point to that. And yes, there are many of them.
But that's not what the argument I made was about. If a particle could only decay into particles it consists of, then either proton -> neutron+stuff or neutron -> proton+stuff would be impossible.
Not necessarily. There are also hadrons with two up quarks and a down quark that can decay to a proton plus other particles.mitrasoumya said:And I also think that whenever some "composite" stuff changes into another "composite" stuff, it is actually the "composition" that is changing.
Right.mitrasoumya said:But, quarks are elementary. Which perhaps means that they don't have an internal structure
In the same way e.g. a muon decays. One quark stops existing, the other one starts existing.mitrasoumya said:Then how does a down quark change into an up quark?
No.mitrasoumya said:Is there something "inside" the quarks that changes?
Maybe, but that's what happens.mitrasoumya said:But, I honestly find it difficult to understand how something not having an "internal" structure can change into another thing also not having an internal structure.
mitchell porter said:Another way to think about it is to focus on fields and their interactions. A particle is an excitation in a field, and particle decay means that excitation disappears from one field and appears in others, thanks to the interaction. You might find that more palatable.