What causes attraction of electrons to nucleus?

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The discussion centers around the nature of the attraction between electrons and protons in the nucleus, specifically questioning the underlying cause of this attraction. Participants explore concepts related to charge and electrical forces, as well as the philosophical implications of these foundational ideas in physics and chemistry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the root cause of the attraction between electrons and protons, suggesting that the inquiry may extend beyond the established concept of charge.
  • Another participant states that protons have a positive charge which attracts negatively charged electrons, identifying this as an electrical force.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the fundamental nature of charge itself is uncertain, stating that no one knows what causes the charges in subatomic particles.
  • Some participants reflect on the observational basis of charge and electrical force as models that have proven effective, despite the lack of deeper understanding.
  • There is a discussion about the categorization of atomic theory as more related to physics than chemistry, highlighting differing educational associations among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the inquiry, with some focusing on the established understanding of charge and others questioning the fundamental causes of charge itself. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current understanding regarding the fundamental nature of charge and the attraction between subatomic particles, indicating a dependence on observational models without a clear resolution of underlying principles.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring foundational concepts in physics and chemistry, particularly regarding atomic theory and the nature of electrical forces.

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What causes the attraction between electrons and protons in the nucleus? I've always assumed the attraction and worked from there, but I was curious if anybody knows what the root cause of this attraction is.
 
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ander said:
What causes the attraction between electrons and protons in the nucleus? I've always assumed the attraction and worked from there, but I was curious if anybody knows what the root cause of this attraction is.

You mean beyond charge? Protons are positively charged, electrons negatively charged?

Is your question more aptly: what causes the charges in subatomic particles?
 
The protons have positive charge, which attract the negatively charged electrons. Essentially, it's an electrical force.
 
DaveC426913 said:
You mean beyond charge? Protons are positively charged, electrons negatively charged?

Is your question more aptly: what causes the charges in subatomic particles?


Yes, that's my question. What causes the charges?
 
ander said:
Yes, that's my question. What causes the charges?

No one knows.
We just observed the attraction and thought up the concept of charge and electrical force to model it.
It turned out to be a good model.
 
I like Serena said:
No one knows.
We just observed the attraction and thought up the concept of charge and electrical force to model it.
It turned out to be a good model.

Disappointing, maybe, but thanks. I guess that's why chemistry isn't mathematics.
 
Actually this is more physics than chemistry.
 
Borek said:
Actually this is more physics than chemistry.

Right, physics. I tend to associate atomic theory with chemistry since I learned it in chemistry class, whereas in physics I learned basic mechanics. But thanks for pointing that out.
 

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