What causes rotation, a coupe or a moment?

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The discussion centers on the physical significance of moments and couples in mechanics. A moment is defined as the rotational effect produced by a force acting at a distance from a pivot point, while a couple consists of two equal and opposite forces that create rotation without translation. The participants clarify that in real-world scenarios, the application of a force on an extended body, such as a rod, results in movement in the direction of the applied force, emphasizing the complexity introduced by material behavior and deformation.

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Does a moment have any real (physical) significance or is it just a definition/ an aid to understand and calculate a couple. Is it that the rotation is actually caused by a couple!

I know we can resolve a force causing a moment about a point into a couple and an equal force acting at that point, but what i want to know is how does this actually happen in a real world scenario.

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Say if there was a body (an extended bar or rod) in space so that no force would act on its centre of mass, then if a force F was applied on one of its ends what would happen and why?

forgive me if the question sounds stupid, but this concept has ben bugging me for a very long time now!:confused:
 
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Sarin said:
Does a moment have any real (physical) significance or is it just a definition/ an aid to understand and calculate a couple. Is it that the rotation is actually caused by a couple!

A couple is a special case of a moment when 2 equal moments act in opposite direction about a pivot.

I know we can resolve a force causing a moment about a point into a couple and an equal force acting at that point, but what i want to know is how does this actually happen in a real world scenario.

The resolving of forces is (in my opinion anyway) a useful mathematical tool but in real life such things as the material constituent behaviour come into play and things get much more complicated, especially if the material deforms.

Say if there was a body (an extended bar or rod) in space so that no force would act on its centre of mass, then if a force F was applied on one of its ends what would happen and why?

It would move in the direction of the applied force.
 

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