What constitutes general knowledge?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "general knowledge," particularly what constitutes it and how it is perceived across different cultures and contexts. Participants explore the definitions, implications, and cultural specificity of general knowledge, as well as its distinction from trivia and its relevance in social settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the term "culturally valued," suggesting it may not accurately represent the nature of general knowledge, which they argue is more culture-specific.
  • Others propose that general knowledge should be defined as what a well-educated person is expected to know, emphasizing that this varies significantly by culture.
  • A participant highlights the difference between general knowledge and trivia, suggesting that general knowledge includes practical information relevant to society, while trivia consists of culturally relevant but less useful facts.
  • Some argue that general knowledge can be seen as a minimum criterion for social acceptance within a dominant culture, while others view it as an anti-elitist pursuit that encourages understanding across different niches.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of knowing contemporary cultural references, such as popular movies and music, and how this knowledge can affect social perceptions.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the classification of "general," noting that it seems to depend on various factors like age and environment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of general knowledge, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the cultural specificity of general knowledge and the potential for differing definitions based on individual backgrounds and societal norms. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about what constitutes valuable knowledge in different contexts.

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Wikipedia says it a collection of culturally valued knowledge. What exactly is culturally valued?

These are the types of questions generally asked: -
1) Name of the nth U.S. president
2) Location of some river or place
3) Birthdate of some famous person
etc.

Why are these questions "culturally valued"?
 
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I don't think that term, "culturally valued," is well used here. "General knowledge" is, by necessity, going to be culture-specific. I think they should merely have said that and avoided the confusion of claiming it's about what's culturally valued.

A Ubangi tribesman might be determined to have a high degree of general knowledge within the Ubangi culture, but his range of knowledge will be quite different than a Siberian villager with a high degree of general knowledge. To say the particular knowledge is culturally valued as opposed to merely culture-specific strikes me as a red herring.
 
The phrase "culturally valued" seems to give the wrong set of associations, if you take "culture" as meaning things like fine art, classical music, etc.

I think you could define "general knowledge" as things that a well-educated (or well-informed) person would be expected to know. As zooby said, the specific things depend very much on the society (or culture) the person is living in. That applies in the first world just as much as in Zooby's examples. There is not much overlap between the general knowledge that British and American citizens have about a topic like "the civil war", for example (most likely, they would not even be referring to the same war).
 
I agree with the above. I always considered general knowledge as being "well rounded" or "well read", knowing a lot in general about the world.

You might like this article

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/n...knowledge-has-changed-1980-2012/#.UouU9dLUD_I

How USA General Knowledge Has Changed, 1980 – 2012
By Neuroskeptic | July 6, 2013 7:15 am

“General knowledge” is the body of facts that most people know and are assumed to know. But how general is it? How does it change over time?
 
Hmm..whether valued or not, I'd say that "general knowledge", within a particular culture is a rough minimum criterion amongst the socially/culturally dominant group, in order to label those lacking in GK as ignoramuses.
 
arildno said:
Hmm..whether valued or not, I'd say that "general knowledge", within a particular culture is a rough minimum criterion amongst the socially/culturally dominant group, in order to label those lacking in GK as ignoramuses.
Having pondered this a bit, I don't think so. "General knowledge" in my view, is more often than not, anti-elitist rather than elitist. People who acquire general knowledge are eager to step outside their specific niche and objectively examine what other people in other niches are up to. You can't do that effectively if you have the attitude your niche, or shall we say, inertial frame, should be preferred over all others.
 
I have never been good at GK quizzes so this was my attempt to understand what actually constitutes general knowledge.
So how do you decide what a well-educated person should know?
arildno said:
Hmm..whether valued or not, I'd say that "general knowledge", within a particular culture is a rough minimum criterion amongst the socially/culturally dominant group, in order to label those lacking in GK as ignoramuses.
Well I think there is some truth to this. One part of general knowledge is to know about the latest movies, songs etc. I never followed that. So when I was unable to talk about such topics around people, I was indeed labeled as "ignoramus".
 
Avichal said:
Well I think there is some truth to this. One part of general knowledge is to know about the latest movies, songs etc. I never followed that. So when I was unable to talk about such topics around people, I was indeed labeled as "ignoramus".
I think that you will find a lot of people that don't consider a knowledge of "pop culture" important. This is probably more true as you get older.
 
I always try to distinguish between general knowledge and trivia. The former I'd say is a range of information that is practical for your society, some things cross cultural boundaries (how to change a tyre) whilst others aren't (how much sales tax is). Trivia is a range of facts that, whilst culturally relevant, are not particularly useful, names of presidents, winners of sports tournaments and certain aspects of geography might fall under this.
 
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Ryan_m_b said:
I always try to distinguish between general knowledge and trivia. The former I'd say is a range of information that is practical for your society, some things cross cultural boundaries (how to change a tyre) whilst others aren't (how much sales tax is). Trivia is a range of facts that, whilst culturally relevant, are not particularly useful, names of presidents, winners of sports tournaments and certain aspects of geography might fall under this.
Good answer!
 
  • #11
Evo said:
I think that you will find a lot of people that don't consider a knowledge of "pop culture" important. This is probably more true as you get older.

You misspelled "wiser".
 
  • #12
Ryan_m_b said:
I always try to distinguish between general knowledge and trivia.
For example, "What did John Locke say?" versus "What does the fox say?"
 
  • #13
Nugatory said:
You misspelled "wiser".
LOL.

D H said:
For example, "What did John Locke say?" versus "What does the fox say?"
Too funny.
 
  • #14
Avichal said:
Wikipedia says it a collection of culturally valued knowledge. What exactly is culturally valued?

These are the types of questions generally asked: -
1) Name of the nth U.S. president
2) Location of some river or place
3) Birthdate of some famous person
etc.

Why are these questions "culturally valued"?

1)To know the names of a few well known presidents of the the US makes sense,if not all.
2)instead of 'some' i would like important(historically significant or politically or financially significant)places and rivers (Nile,Indus,Yellow river etc)
3) i am not sure about exact birth dates but at least we must know their names ,their major contributions and the century they were born in.
 
  • #15
Knowing the key strategies and techniques of modern warfare as well as having a picture of the political and diplomatic atmosphere under which you direct your soldiers and the ability to direct them unquestioningly.
 
  • #16
Avichal said:
Well I think there is some truth to this. One part of general knowledge is to know about the latest movies, songs etc. I never followed that. So when I was unable to talk about such topics around people, I was indeed labeled as "ignoramus".
There is a big difference between being up on the latest films that are popular within a certain youth subculture simply because you're a member of that subculture, and knowing something about film. The former is not a part of "general knowledge". Similarly, I know practically nothing about the popular music of the past 5 years, but my general knowledge of music is high for a non-musician. Some teenager whose knowledge of music is limited to the top 40 of the past five years can't be said to have a high degree of general knowledge about music. See the distinction? That teenager could treat you like an ignoramus for not knowing the currently popular group, Betty Bokeh and the Circles of Confusion, but this doesn't mean that teenager has authentically high general knowledge about music.
 
  • #17
I would say "general knowledge" consists of things you don't need to know in order to do your job, pursue a serious hobby or just get by in living your life. It's taken as a sign of erudition in social circles that value erudition.
 
  • #18
Of course you don't need general knowledge to be living your life but I was just asking because I don't understand what is it.

I'm confused by the word "general". How do you even classify "general"? It seems as if it depends on age, country, environment etc. For some people pop culture is general knowledge while for some political awareness is important etc.
 
  • #19
Avichal said:
Of course you don't need general knowledge to be living your life but I was just asking because I don't understand what is it.

I'm confused by the word "general". How do you even classify "general"? It seems as if it depends on age, country, environment etc. For some people pop culture is general knowledge while for some political awareness is important etc.
"General" is, obviously, as opposed to "specific". Knowledge limited to pop culture can't be called "general,". It's specific. A person with "general knowledge" is one who knows something about a wide range of subjects. The wiki article you mentioned has a list:

Art
Biology
Classical music
Cookery
Discovery and exploration
Fashion
Film
Finance
Games
General science
Geography
History
History of science
Literature
Medicine
Music
Politics
Popular music
Sport
Television

A person who has a good basic grasp of all these subjects has "general" knowledge.
 
  • #20
Thank you all for great answers.
I don't know why I was so eager to know what is "general knowledge". But now I know what it is.

EDIT: I would also like to ask why most people test general knowledge with trivia? If its about music, I appreciate its beauty, I kind of know how it works, heard some popular ones and I enjoy it. But I wouldn't be considered having a good grasp on it till I answer some factual questions.
 
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  • #21
Avichal said:
EDIT: I would also like to ask why most people test general knowledge with trivia?
I'm not sure that this is the case. Where are you getting your perception of such tests?
 
  • #22
zoobyshoe said:
I'm not sure that this is the case. Where are you getting your perception of such tests?
Well I don't know if it is actually the case. I just watched some online quizzes on T.V. They are mostly factual questions that I find unimportant to remember.
 
  • #23
The wiki article specifically cites the field of differential psychology as the one interested in the concept of general knowledge. I'd look into that literature for a deeper grasp of how it's tested for. Any other "general knowledge" quizzes may, in fact, just be mere trivia contests for entertainment purposes.
 
  • #24
zoobyshoe said:
A person who has a good basic grasp of all these subjects has "general" knowledge.

I agree, a basic grasp of wide range of subjects is general knowledge. It would exclude specific areas of a person's expertise, either by vocation or avocation (hobby) IMO.
 
  • #25
zoobyshoe said:
"General" is, obviously, as opposed to "specific". Knowledge limited to pop culture can't be called "general,". It's specific. A person with "general knowledge" is one who knows something about a wide range of subjects. The wiki article you mentioned has a list:

Art
Biology
Classical music
Cookery
Discovery and exploration
Fashion
Film
Finance
Games
General science
Geography
History
History of science
Literature
Medicine
Music
Politics
Popular music
Sport
Television

A person who has a good basic grasp of all these subjects has "general" knowledge.

I'm a miserable failure in Fashion, Sport, and Television :redface:.
 
  • #26
lisab said:
I'm a miserable failure in Fashion, Sport, and Television :redface:.
Add any pop culture topic for me, that includes movies, celebrities, pop music. Flash in the pan junk isn't worth knowing, IMO. To me, that's trivia.
 
  • #27
Pythagorean said:
Here's a talk by computaitonal neuroscientist,
That's really off topic from the OP's question. The op wanted to know what kind of information constituted "general knowledge", not how the brain works.
 
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  • #28
lisab said:
I'm a miserable failure in Fashion, Sport, and Television :redface:.
Television is the odd subject here because it's so new. You can see, however, that a person could possesses "general knowledge," of sports and fashion without knowing anything about what's currently fashionable, or who won last years Lisab Cup in long distance armadillo throwing. As a theater major I had to take a course in costuming. That entailed both design, sewing and history, which amounted to a basic familiarity with fashion, despite the fact I never have a clue as to what designer might be "in" at any given time. It was a good intro to the concept of fashion, it's fluxions and vicissitudes. A person might equally get some intro to sports as such without specifically knowing much about current American football teams and star players.

I think my "general knowledge" of television should be ranked acceptable: I did read a book about the invention of the device, and have watched who knows how many hundreds of thousands of hours of it, despite the fact I'm no TV trivia expert. I believe I "get" television. I don't, on the other hand, "get" biology. It's a subject I'm seriously ignorant about.
 
  • #29
http://toolooney.goldenagecartoons.com/gossamerclipart.gifCan anyone identify this character? If you can, you get "general knowledge" points.
 
  • #30
Cartoon show about a ghost family with a disembodied hand for a butler...can't for the life of me remember the show or any name...
(googling now)
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nope...I was wrong not an Addams...confused with Cousin Itt
 
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