What Current Flows in a Coil at 230V, 50Hz?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to electrical circuits, specifically focusing on the behavior of a coil when subjected to both direct current (DC) and alternating current (AC). The original poster is tasked with determining the current in a coil connected to a 230V, 50Hz supply, based on given conditions involving different currents and voltages.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the current and voltage across the coil to find the inductance and resistance, expressing uncertainty about the starting point for the calculations. Participants question the significance of the voltage readings and the relationship between current, voltage, resistance, and inductance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants guiding the original poster to consider the implications of the voltage readings and the nature of the coil's components. There is an exploration of the relationship between the quantities involved, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of both resistance and inductance in the coil, suggesting that the problem involves understanding the combined effects of these components on current and voltage in AC and DC scenarios.

IronaSona
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XL =2p x f x L.
Hello, am kind of new to all the physics stuff , and kind a terrible at maths but am trying my best to be good at it one day .So i was told to answer this question

When a direct current of 2A is passed through a coil, the potential difference across the coil is 20V. When an alternating current of 2A at a frequency of 40Hz is passed through the coil, the potential difference across the coil is 140V.

a) Find the current in the coil if it is connected to a supply of 230V, 50Hz.

but i don't even know where i need to start ? do i need to find the coil inductances first and then do:
2 = a constant (2 x 3.1416 = 6.28)
6.28*hz*henries= ... Ohms

240V/...Ohms= ...Amps?

is that right ?and for (b) i got no idea how to do that

b) What is the phase shift of the current in the coil with respect to the supply voltage?
 
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Rather than guessing and plugging numbers into formulas, you need to see the big picture and formulate a strategy. So first, what is the significance of what the sentence below is telling you?
IronaSona said:
When a direct current of 2A is passed through a coil, the potential difference across the coil is 20V.
 
vela said:
Rather than guessing and plugging numbers into formulas, you need to see the big picture and formulate a strategy. So first, what is the significance of what the sentence below is telling you?
voltage across the coil is 20V?
 
That's what the sentence literally says, but what does it mean? Why does the DC current produce a voltage drop across the coil?
 
vela said:
That's what the sentence literally says, but what does it mean? Why does the DC current produce a voltage drop across the coil?
because there's a resistance
 
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OK, good, so the coil isn't simply an inductor but an inductor ##L## and a resistor ##R##.

The second sentence says
When an alternating current of 2A at a frequency of 40Hz is passed through the coil, the potential difference across the coil is 140V.
What's the relationship between those two quantities in terms of ##R##, ##L##, and frequency ##f##? Rather than using numbers, just call them ##I## and ##V## for now.
 

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