What Determines Spin State Energies in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around the energy levels of spin states of an electron in a magnetic field, specifically when the field is aligned in the -z direction. The original poster is seeking clarification on the derivation of energy values associated with spin states and whether these can be determined without extensive calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the Hamiltonian and the energy of spin states, questioning if there is a general method to determine energy states for spins in various orientations relative to the magnetic field.
  • Some participants provide insights into the Hamiltonian formulation and the role of Pauli matrices in calculating energy eigenvalues for specific spin states.
  • Questions are raised about the applicability of results when the spin and magnetic field are not aligned along the standard axes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the derivation of energy values and the implications of the Hamiltonian. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Pauli matrices and the relationship between spin states and magnetic fields, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's broader questions.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to spin and magnetic fields, with some assumptions about the applicability of derived results in different orientations being questioned.

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[SOLVED] energies of spin states

Homework Statement


An electron is in a constant magnetic field with magnitude B_0, aligned in the -z direction. My book says without explanation:

"the spin-up state has energy -\mu_B B_0"

where \mu_B is the Bohr magneton

I looked back in the Spin Angular Momentum chapter and I cannot find where this was derived.

I am thinking that they used the equation H = B_0 \mu_B \sigma_z [/itex] and just calculated the energy of the spin up state using the TISE and the vector representation of spin-up in z. Is there an a priori way of knowing the energy of a spin state of it is spin up or down in x, y,or z in a magnetic field?<br /> <br /> EDIT: OK. So I think that if you actually calculate the energies for the spins using H |\psi&gt; = E | \psi&gt;, you get that the energy is always -\mu_B B_0 when the spin is antiparallel to the magnetic field vector and \mu_B B_0 when the spin is parallel to the magnetic field vector. I explicitly checked that this holds for x, y, and z. Could I have obtained this result without calculating with Pauli matrices, though? Does this result hold when the spin and magnetic field are parallel but not along x,y,z,-x,-y,-z?<br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2>
 
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the Hamiltonian for a (spin)particle in magnetic field:

H = - (q/mc) \vec{S} \cdot \vec{B} (sakurai eq 2.1.49)
(q = -e for the electron)

the magnetic moment for an electron is of course: \mu_B = e\hbar /2mc

Now you can simply relate the spin matrices to the hamiltonian and see what energy eigenvalues different states have.

for your B-field: \vec{B} = -B_0 \hat{z}
You will get this hamiltonian:
H = - (e/2mc) \sigma _z B_0 and the pauli matrix property:
\sigma _z \chi _+ = \hbar \chi _+
So the energy for this particle (spin in +z and magnetic field in -z) is -\mu_B B_0
 
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So, I guess the answers to my questions in the EDIT are no and yes.
 
Right?
 
You must use the spin- (pauli) matrices for this, the form of the hamiltonian follows from basic electromagnetism.

For your second "question" , i don't know what you ask for, but it is very easy to evaluate the energy eigen values for a specific state in a certain magnetic field.
 

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