What determines the curvature of a particle's path in an electric field?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the factors that determine the curvature of a particle's path in an electric field, particularly focusing on the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and forces acting on the particle.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration and curvature, questioning why curvature is not directly determined by the forces acting on the particle. They also discuss the implications of changing mass and charge on the radius of curvature and seek clarification on the relevance of gravitational forces at subatomic scales.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the underlying principles and seeking further clarification on the mathematical relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between radius of curvature, velocity, and acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of mass and charge.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the negligible effects of gravitational force in the context of subatomic particles and are considering how different parameters influence the curvature of the path.

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For this question, the ans is A, the ans said that the curvature of the path is determined by the acceleration of the particle.

There is two question I want to ask: 1. Why the curvature of the path is not determined by the force (electric force + weight) acting on the charge instead of it's acceleration?
2. Why option B is not correct? Since it's weight is increased so that the total downward force is increased.
 
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The curvature is ultimately dependent on the relation between the acceleration and the velocity. The relation between the radius of curvature and these quantities is R = v^2/a. (Note that infinite radius of curvature corresponds to a straight line.) The force on the particle is related to its acceleration through Newton's second law.

The gravitational force is usually completely negligible on subatomic scales.
 
Orodruin said:
The curvature is ultimately dependent on the relation between the acceleration and the velocity. The relation between the radius of curvature and these quantities is R = v^2/a. (Note that infinite radius of curvature corresponds to a straight line.) The force on the particle is related to its acceleration through Newton's second law.

The gravitational force is usually completely negligible on subatomic scales.

Could you explain more please?Base on the options of the question.
 
Orodruin said:
The gravitational force is usually completely negligible on subatomic scales.

Sir , is that applicable here ?

And also ,
R = v2/a , so wouldn't increasing q or m decrease R ?
 
No, you need to provide some effort of working with the equations. For example, how do you obtain the dependence of the radius of curvature on the charge of the particle?
 
Qwertywerty said:
Sir , does that apply here ?

And also ,
R = v2/a , so wouldn't increasing q or m decrease R ?
If you had read my post properly, you would have seen that large R correspond to almost straight trajectories.
 
Orodruin said:
If you had read my post properly, you would have seen that large R correspond to almost straight trajectories.

So a higher velocity would mean a larger R right ?
 
Orodruin said:
If you had read my post properly, you would have seen that large R correspond to almost straight trajectories.

I think that the terms " increase the curvature of path" in this question means that the path of the particle become more close to the lower plate...
 
Which would happen for decreasing radius of curvature, which is what I was hinting at. Even if gravity is not negligible, the curvature would not increase with increasing mass (in fact, if q is non-zero, it would decrease). Can you see why? Hint: How does the movement of a mass in a gravitational field depend on the mass? Do objects with different masses fall with different acceleration?
 

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