What determines the emission spectrum of matter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors that determine the emission spectrum of matter, including the relationship between wavelength, frequency, and energy. Participants explore the nature of electromagnetic radiation and its classification within the electromagnetic spectrum, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the wavelength of electromagnetic waves is determined by their frequency, with the relationship described by the equation e=hv=hc/λ.
  • Others argue that the classification of electromagnetic radiation into categories such as microwaves and radio waves is somewhat arbitrary, suggesting that these distinctions are human-made rather than inherent properties of the waves.
  • A participant notes that all matter radiates electromagnetic energy at specific energy levels, wavelengths, and frequencies, which are influenced by the temperature of the substance.
  • One participant elaborates on how heating a substance like iron causes it to emit higher frequencies of electromagnetic radiation, transitioning from low frequencies to visible light as temperature increases.
  • There is a suggestion that the particle emitting the radiation plays a crucial role in determining the characteristics of the emitted wavelength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the nature of electromagnetic radiation and its classification, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the definitions and implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of electromagnetic radiation categories and the unresolved complexities surrounding the emission spectrum of different substances.

AlexHornby
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What determines the wave length.
 
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The length of the waves. Could you rephrase the question, please?
 
The Lengths of the different waves and the frequencies are different such as gamma and microwaves being different.i understand how they are different but why
 
AlexHornby said:
The Lengths of the different waves and the frequencies are different such as gamma and microwaves being different.i understand how they are different but why

The energy content of each photon is directly and rigorously related to that photon's wavelength and frequency. The governing equation is:

e=hv=hc/λ​

All matter radiates electromagnetic energy. Each substance has allowable energy levels/wavelengths/frequencies at which it can radiate, and specific temperatures at which it can radiate them (its emission spectrum).

From here on, it gets complicated.
 
Oh, are you asking why "microwave" and "radio wave" are defined by the particular frequencies they are?
 
To my knowledge, what determines a wavelength is the frequency (the number of occurances of waves at a given point of time) of a wave. The wavelength is the distance between the troughs and peaks of a wave.

I'd also like to note that the electromagnetic spectrum is made up of both visible, and invisble light, (Radio Waves, to visible light, to gamma rays), so we don't know which type of wave you are speaking of specificly.
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I guess if you trace it back, it is determined by the particle that emits it.
 
NateSprague62 said:
To my knowledge, what determines a wavelength is the frequency (the number of occurances of waves at a given point of time) of a wave. The wavelength is the distance between the troughs and peaks of a wave.

I'd also like to note that the electromagnetic spectrum is made up of both visible, and invisble light, (Radio Waves, to visible light, to gamma rays), so we don't know which type of wave you are speaking of specificly.
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It doesn't matter which "type" of EM radiation you are referring to as all follow the same rules. The seperations between the types of EM Radiation is something we made, not something that actually exists. IE nothing special happens between the visibal and UV ranges, we simply put a line on our chart or graph or whatever and say "Here is where the visible ends and the UV begins."

Also, set your quote up in your profile so it isn't quoted every time someone quotes you. :biggrin:
 
klimatos said:
All matter radiates electromagnetic energy. Each substance has allowable energy levels/wavelengths/frequencies at which it can radiate, and specific temperatures at which it can radiate them (its emission spectrum).

From here on, it gets complicated.

Just to elaborate on this a little bit:

The frequency of EM emitted by any substance will jump to the next higher frequency (allowable for that substance) as energy increases. As an example, when we heat a piece of iron to higher and higher temperatures, the first result detectable by our senses is that the iron becomes hot. Heat is a relatively low EM frequency.

As more energy is put into the iron, it begins to glow. This means that the iron is emitting higher EM frequencies, just entering the spectrum of "visible light", the lowest frequency of EM radiation visible to the human eye being the color red.

If we continue to heat up iron, it will begin to glow orange, then the low, and eventually white (when colors from all across the visible spectrum are being emitted).
 

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