What Determines the Frequency of Circular Motion in a Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around the frequency of circular motion for a charged particle in a uniform magnetic field. Participants are exploring how various factors such as radius, mass, charge, and the magnetic field itself influence this frequency.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to derive relationships between the variables involved, questioning how the frequency relates to the radius and other quantities. Some express confusion about the role of the magnetic field and the equations governing circular motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing equations and attempting to clarify their understanding of the relationships between frequency, radius, and other factors. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the dependencies of frequency on various quantities, and some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between angular frequency and frequency.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of their equations and definitions, with some expressing uncertainty about how to correctly apply the concepts to find the frequency of circular motion.

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Homework Statement



The frequency of circular motion for a charged particle moving around in the presence of a uniform magnetic field does not depend on ...

a)The radius of the circle
b)The mass of the particle
c)The charge of the particle
d)The magnitude of the magnetic field
e)Actually, it depends on all of the above quantities

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe the answer is d because the magnetic field alone cannot alter the KE of a particle because it is perpendicular to the particle velocity

OR

V = mv^2/R ----> QBr/m = 2piR/T (B is the magnitude of the magnetic field)
Where you solve for the period, cancel out the radius on both sides of the equation and take the inverse. Therefore the answer does not depend on the radius.

Which is correct?
Thanks in advance
 
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Q*v*B= Q*ω*r*B = m*v^2/r = m*ω^2*r ( velocity v = rω)
 
Clarification

Q*v*B= m*v^2/r =
QB = mv^2/r
QB = m(f x wavelength) /r

Therefore

f = rQB/(m x wavelength)

Therefore, the frequency of circular motion for a charged particle moving around in the presence of a uniform magnetic field depends on e) all of the above quantities
 
v = f*λ relation is used in the propagation of waves in a medium, not in the circular motion.
 
I am confused now.How do I find the frequency then for circular motion

Q*ω*r*B = m*ω^2*r

I know from this equation the radius cancels but what does this have to do with the frequency
 
Omega = 2*pi*f. Omega is the number of radians that go by each second, so omega/(2*pi) is the number of revolutions that can fit in each second.
 
Right. Thank you very much
 

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