What direction will a man appear to be rowing in relative motion?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in relative motion involving a man rowing a boat in a river with a current. The original poster seeks to understand how the motion of the boat appears from different reference points: an observer on land, an observer in the water, and an observer in the boat itself.

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  • Participants explore the perspectives of different observers regarding the motion of the boat. Questions are raised about how the rowing direction appears to stationary observers on land versus those moving with the current.

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Participants are actively questioning the observations from various frames of reference. Some have suggested that the observer on the boat will perceive the motion differently than a stationary observer on land, while others are clarifying the implications of vector addition in this context.

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There is some confusion regarding the interpretation of relative velocities and the angles involved, particularly whether the observed motion is perpendicular or at an angle. The discussion includes references to vector diagrams and the resultant velocities, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts.

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Hello,
If a man how is able to row on still water at 2.5m/s. If the water is moving at 1.5m/s, in which direction should he row.
The answer is he should row at 53.1 degrees upstream but the question for an observer on the boat and another observer on land, how will the motion appear?
For an observer on land will the man appear to be rowing along a perpendicular to both river banks ?? Or is it for an observer flowing smoothly with the river current ??
Hence I would like to know how is motion will look like from three different points, from the land, from the water and from the boat !
Thanks !
 
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The observer co-flowing with the stream and the observer on the land will be observing the motion of the boat, that is clear.

But what is the observer on the boat going to observe?
 
The thing that is bothering me is with respect to an observer flowing with the river due east it will appear that the boat will be going vertically upstream. Of course the observer on the boat knows where he is going (2.5m/s at 53.1 degrees upstream. My question is on the ground/bank, what will a stationary observer see ? Surely he can't see either of the two cases mentioned above ??
 
medwatt said:
The thing that is bothering me is with respect to an observer flowing with the river due east it will appear that the boat will be going vertically upstream. Of course the observer on the boat knows where he is going (2.5m/s at 53.1 degrees upstream. My question is on the ground/bank, what will a stationary observer see ? Surely he can't see either of the two cases mentioned above ??

The co-flowing observer cannot just see that the boat is going strictly against the stream. In the end, the boat DOES cross the river, and that will be seen by any observer.

In any case, the observed velocity of the boat is its velocity in the co-flowing frame of reference plus (vector plus!) the velocity of the co-flowing frame relative to whatever frame the other observer is in.
 
But if you draw a vector diagram the resultant of the boat and the river current, you will notice that the river current and the relative velocity vector are perpendicular !
 
The relative velocity is not perpendicular. It is at 53.1 degrees. The resultant velocity is perpendicular.
 

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