What do the atomic orbitals of Helium look like?

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The discussion focuses on the challenges of visualizing the atomic orbitals of helium due to the complexity of the Schrödinger equation, which cannot be solved exactly for helium. The equation involves a psi-function dependent on two 3D position parameters, resulting in a six-dimensional parameter set that complicates numerical solutions. The need for extensive computational resources, potentially requiring trillions of data points, is highlighted as a significant barrier. Additionally, the conversation questions the validity of defining individual electron orbitals when considering the combined states of the electrons.

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Hi.

I am wondering about this. I have been able to find many graphs showing what the atomic orbitals look like for hydrogen, but nothing for more complex atoms, like helium. Why is this? Now I know the Schrödinger equation for helium cannot be solved exactly, but you don't need an exact solution to plot a graph, which will be approximate anyways. Can't you just throw the Schrödinger equation into some kind of numerical differential equations algorithm and plot the results?

ADD: I just remembered that the equation has a psi-function which depends on TWO 3D position parameters, not 1 (1 parameter for each electron), which means it has a 6-dimensional parameter set. So using a grid of 100 points on a side in your numerical algorithm you would need one trillion (10^12) points, which would be several TB of data on a computer. Is this the reason? Even then, couldn't you exploit some kind of symmetry or use a more compact representation like a series expansion or something to cut it down to a more manageable data set?

Also, does the psi-function's dependence on two position parameters mean you cannot really talk of orbitals for each electron after all?
 
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