What do undergraduate physics student do in their final year report or thesis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the types of projects and approaches undergraduate physics students may undertake for their final year report or thesis. It explores various methodologies, including theoretical work, simulations, and experimental projects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that creating new theories is unlikely but not impossible for undergraduate theses.
  • Others propose that projects may include practical experiments, literature reviews, or simulations, with specific programming languages like C++, Fortran, Mathematica, or Mathcad mentioned.
  • One participant notes that the freedom given to students can vary significantly, affecting the scope of their projects, with some starting their theses as early as the end of their sophomore year.
  • It is mentioned that developing an original idea from scratch can be challenging, and many students may build upon existing ideas or generalize them for their theses.
  • Numerical methods are highlighted as useful for addressing complex problems, particularly those involving differential equations or matrices.
  • Participants also indicate that students may engage in experimental work as part of their thesis projects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the types of projects undertaken, with no consensus on a single approach. The discussion reflects multiple competing perspectives on the nature of undergraduate theses in physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of project types, differences in institutional requirements, and the potential for differing levels of student freedom in project selection.

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Undergraduate physics students, educators in physics programs, and individuals interested in the structure of final year projects in STEM fields may find this discussion relevant.

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Normaly what do undergraduate physics students do in their final year report or thesis?
1. Create new theories? Unlikely but not impossible.
2. Simulation? What do they simulate and what computer programe do they use?

Thanks.
 
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Depends,
A pactical project that is a geatly expanded lab class involving building some equipment.
A literature review of a field.
A simulation/modelling project could be in C++/Fortran or use something like mathematica/ mathcad
 
Depends on how much freedom you are given and when you start.

Some schools have students working on their senior thesis starting the end of their sophmore year, while others at the end of their junior.

If you had the time and resources I do not foresee a reason that would hold you back from designing and preforming an experiment that could contribute to the filed as a whole.

If you weren't given this much freedom, probably a lit review and prospectus would be called for.

If you were planning on doing teaching as a career a developed curriculum might hold as an undergraduate thesis.
 
The honours thesis during my undergrad was for 8 months in the final year. Most of the students shopped around for supervisors and then asked them for background material on possible projects.

It's hard to develop an original idea from scratch - for a thesis you really need some starting point that will guarantee you that you can do enough work to actually produce a thesis. Most theory theses take an existing idea and try to either generalize it or apply it to a specific situation and then develop the consequences.

As for numerical methods, most scientific programming is done in fortran or (more commonly now) C++, although some astro people work with wacky scripting languages. The advantage of doing a computational thesis is that you get to explore a complex problem for which people have probably already thought about the analytic solution in a really simple case (eg the Heisenber model on a square lattice vs the Heisenberg model on a ring). Numerical methods are handy for any physics problem which can be written in terms of differential equations (eg fluid dynamics problems) or matrices (spins-on-a-lattice problems).

Students also work on experiments for their thesis projects!
 

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