What do we learn from eclipse that the NASA IRIS doesn't tell us?

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The discussion revolves around what insights can be gained from a solar eclipse that are not provided by NASA's Interface Region Imaging Spectrograph (IRIS) program. Participants explore the differences in observational capabilities and the significance of solar eclipses in studying the Sun's corona and other phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the unique insights gained from solar eclipses compared to the continuous data provided by IRIS, suggesting that IRIS could potentially offer better information with modifications.
  • Others express curiosity about the specific scientific benefits of observing the corona during an eclipse, noting that the corona is already under constant observation.
  • There is a suggestion that the excitement surrounding eclipses may be more about their visual appeal rather than new scientific discoveries.
  • Some participants highlight the potential for studying Earth's reactions to eclipses, such as temperature changes and animal behavior.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the statements made by scientists about what can be learned from eclipses, indicating a lack of clarity in the information presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the value of solar eclipses for scientific study compared to other observational methods. There are multiple competing views regarding the significance of eclipse observations versus continuous monitoring by instruments like IRIS.

Contextual Notes

Some statements made by participants reflect uncertainty about the specific scientific claims regarding solar eclipses and the corona, as well as the qualifications of the scientists interviewed in the media.

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What can we learn from a solar eclipse that the NASA IRIS program doesn't tell us? (and why)
 
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That even someone like uncle Donald is interested in the former -- while probably having no idea what the heck is the latter :smile: ?
 
BvU said:
That even someone like uncle Donald is interested in the former -- while probably having no idea what the heck is the latter :smile: ?
It's the NASA program that gives us many of those detailed photos of the sun. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasas-sun-observing-iris-mission
I know very little about it. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Region_Imaging_Spectrograph:
The Interface Region Imaging Spectrograph (IRIS) is a NASA solar observation satellite. The mission was funded through the Small Explorer program to investigate the physical conditions of the solar limb, particularly the chromosphere of the Sun.
I can't help thinking that all they would have to do to get better information than the brief 3 minute eclipse gives us would be to photograph from IRIS with a mask blocking the sun like a permanent eclipse.
 
256bits said:
That's very interesting. There is obviously a lot going on to study the Sun's corona that does not depend on an eclipse. That leaves me still wondering if there is anything more to learn about the corona during a solar eclipse. I can understand that there might be a lot to learn about the Earth's reaction to an eclipse (temperature change, animal behavior, etc.). But there seemed to be a lot of scientists being interviewed in the news about what they would learn from the eclipse about the corona. That puzzles me. Maybe they just talk about the corona because it makes such beautiful pictures during an eclipse.
 
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That leaves me still wondering if there is anything more to learn about the corona during a solar eclipse.

probably not since the solar corona is under 24 hr, 365 day surveillance
as a result, anything that occurs in the corona is well documented
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But there seemed to be a lot of scientists being interviewed in the news about what they would learn from the eclipse about the corona

that's a pretty vague statement :wink: ... maybe the wrong scientists were being interviewed ... do you have any further info ?

Dave
 
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Obligatory xkcd reference:

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davenn said:
that's a pretty vague statement :wink: ... maybe the wrong scientists were being interviewed ... do you have any further info ?
That's true, it's pretty vague. Unfortunately, I did not pay enough attention and do not remember what they said.
 
Uncle Donald is so excited he let his limited imagination loose on tweettweet .
Forgot that this way he reperesents the moon when Obi is the sun !
 
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BvU said:
Uncle Donald is so excited he let his limited imagination loose on tweettweet .
Forgot that this way he reperesents the moon when Obi is the sun !
Oh! Now I get who Uncle Donald is. I thought he was an astronomy expert on this forum. :>)
 
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