What Does a Negative or Imaginary Partition Function Indicate?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of obtaining a negative or imaginary partition function in the context of Euclidean quantum field theory, particularly when varying a charge parameter in the action. Participants explore whether such occurrences indicate a phase transition or other significant theoretical implications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for small charge values, the partition function is positive, but becomes negative beyond a critical charge, raising questions about its meaning and potential interpretation as a phase transition.
  • Another participant challenges the possibility of obtaining a negative partition function, questioning the assumptions about the action and the nature of the integral involved.
  • A participant describes their approach using the saddle point method, indicating that they found a critical point that is imaginary and that the second order variations change sign at a critical charge, leading to a negative contribution to the partition function.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the saddle point method and the specific charge being discussed, with suggestions that the integral may not yield a negative result.
  • One participant provides details about the action being used, specifically mentioning Euclidean Yang-Mills theory coupled with a heavy static source, and notes the existence of an imaginary solution in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of a negative partition function, with some suggesting it may indicate a phase transition while others contest the validity of this interpretation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of the critical charge and the behavior of the partition function.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of the action and the specific conditions under which the partition function is evaluated. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the definitions and interpretations of the parameters involved.

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I have a partition function in euclidean quantum field theory. I have a parameter, let's say a charge, that I can change in the action that define the partition function.

I found that for small charge the partition function is positive, but there is a critical charge, above the one the partition function becomes negative.

Which is the meaning? Could this be interpreted as a phase transition?

General question: the partition function must be positive? which is the meaning of having an imaginary or negative partition function?

Thanks
 
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How can you get a minus sign, the partition function always has the action part exponentiated. Or are you asking something else?
 
1) My action has an imaginary current as interaction (due to Wick rotation in from the theory in Minkowski space).
2) From the symmetry if the action I know that the functional integral is positive so the partition function is well defined (it's like the integral of Exp(-x^2+ i x)
3) I want to extimate the partition function through the saddle point method. I find a critical point (that in my case is imaginary) and I expand the theory around it, calculating the second order variation.
4) For small charge, the second order variations are positive, but when I pass a critical charge I find two negative eigenvalues of the second order variation, that gives a factor minus 1 (the negativity of the partition function I refered).

The question is: what does imply the fact that in this case the fact I have a negative contribution? Phase transition? The critical point around the one I was expanding the theory is no more good for large charge?

Thanks
 
You can evaluate the integral in closed form here, it will not be negative. Saddle point method is approximate, also which charge are you talking about? Are you using a scalar field theory with Wick rotation and coupling as charge, then it does not have a critical point.
 
The action is Euclidean Yang Mills couled with an heavy static source (this is the imaginary current):
$$F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}+i\delta_{\mu0}A_{\mu}$$

Solving the euclidean yang mills equation, I have an imaginary solution.
 

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