What does vector subtraction for two non-perpendicular vectors look like?

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The discussion revolves around the visualization and conceptual understanding of vector subtraction, particularly for two non-perpendicular vectors. Participants explore the mathematical principles behind vector subtraction and its graphical representation.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in visualizing vector subtraction and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests that vector subtraction can be understood as the addition of the additive inverse, paralleling scalar subtraction.
  • It is proposed that the graphical representation of vector subtraction involves drawing vectors tail to tail and connecting their tips to visualize the difference.
  • A participant describes the process of visualizing vector subtraction using the parallelogram rule and the effect of multiplying a vector by -1 to change its direction.
  • Instructions are provided for graphically representing the difference between two vectors, emphasizing the importance of direction and magnitude in the resulting vector.

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Participants present multiple viewpoints on the visualization and conceptualization of vector subtraction, with no consensus reached on a single method or interpretation.

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Some assumptions about vector orientation and the graphical methods used are not explicitly stated, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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vector subtraction of ppl is simple but i cant visualise the subtraction please help
 
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If a -b = a + (-b) for scalars, what do you think it would be for vectors?
 
Can you visualize the addition of vectors?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If a -b = a + (-b) for scalars, what do you think it would be for vectors?
same thing?
 
homeworkhelpls said:
same thing?
What @Vanadium 50 meant is that subtraction is actually addition of the (additive) inverse. In basic arithmetic, subtraction is seen as a separate arithmetic operation. But, as you progress in mathematics you'll see that there is only really addition.
 
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In general A+ (-B ) = A - B. We can think of this visually as drawing the tail of a vector from the tip of B to the tip of A. This will be A - B. Assuming A and B originate at the same point.

Here is another way. As shown in Kuraman's diagram:

Multiplying by a negative 1, changes the direction of a vector, but keeps it magnitude the same. Then follow the parallelogram rule for addition of vectors. This is what's occurring in the diagram.
 
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To @homeworkhelpls :
Since you asked specifically about the difference between two vectors, here is a recipe for subtracting vectors graphically which summarizes what has already been said.
  • Put the vectors tail to tail and connect the tips with a line segment. This is the magnitude of the difference, ##|\mathbf{A}-\mathbf{B}|.##
  • Put an arrowhead at the end of the segment touching the tip of the vector that comes first in the difference that you want to represent. This will convert the segment from a magnitude to a vector, i.e. define the direction of the difference.
Note that when you start where the tails are together and move in the direction of the arrows:
  • in (1) if you go to the left, you reach directly the tip of ##\mathbf{A}##; if you go to the right, you trace the path ##\mathbf{B}+(\mathbf{A-B})=\mathbf{A}##, same place.
  • in (2) if you go to the right, you reach directly the tip of ##\mathbf{B}##; if you go to the left you trace the path ##\mathbf{A}+(\mathbf{B-A})=\mathbf{B}##, same place.
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