What elements are used to prevent losing neutrons?

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The discussion revolves around the elements and methods used to prevent the loss of neutrons in nuclear power plants and atomic bombs. Participants explore various materials and concepts related to neutron behavior, including neutron capture, scattering, and reflection.

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  • Some participants note that nuclear fuel in power plants typically uses low enrichment, while nuclear weapons use highly enriched materials like Pu-239.
  • It is mentioned that Zr-based alloys are used in fuel cores to minimize neutron absorption, and stainless steels are common structural materials.
  • Participants discuss the optimization of core geometry and power distribution to reduce neutron leakage.
  • Some suggest that neutron capture could prevent neutron loss, while others argue that capturing neutrons results in their loss.
  • There is a proposal regarding the concept of neutron mirrors, which are materials that scatter neutrons elastically without absorption, likening them to moderators.
  • One participant mentions that Tungsten carbide may serve as a good neutron reflector and seeks more precise data on its neutron reflection rates.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of having a high fast removal cross-section with a low absorption cross-section for effective reflectors.
  • Iron is also mentioned as a material used for neutron reflection in thermal reactors.

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There is no consensus on the effectiveness of neutron capture as a method to prevent neutron loss, with differing views on its implications. Additionally, the concept of neutron mirrors is debated, with varying interpretations of their function.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding definitions and properties of neutron capture and reflection, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts. Some discussions also reference specific isotopes and materials without providing detailed context or definitions.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying nuclear physics, engineering, or materials science, particularly in the context of neutron behavior and nuclear reactor design.

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what elements are used to prevent losing neutrons and what are the ways of preventing losing of neutrons in nuclear power plant and atomic bomb?
 
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Physicsissuef said:
what elements are used to prevent losing neutrons and what are the ways of preventing losing of neutrons in nuclear power plant and atomic bomb?
The cores of nuclear plants and nuclear weapons (pits) are two different animals.

Nuclear fuel uses relatively low enrichment, typcially just less the 5% enriched these days in most modern LWRs, or slightly enriched in CANDU's, as compared to nuclear weapons, which are based on highly enriched Pu-239 (~94% Pu-239).

The fuel in the cores have been design with low absorbing Zr-based alloys, while the structural materials are typically stainless steels of the 300 series (e.g. 304, 316 . . .). The core is optimized geometrically, and the power distribution is then optimized to reduce in the assemblies on the exterior of the core in order to reduce neutron leakage (loss). Some older plants had steel pads designed to reflect fast neutrons back into the core. In some exotic core design Be and compounds of Be have been proposed, however Be is a very toxic compound.

In nuclear weapons, the pits are high enriched and then compressed to much greater densities very quickly in order to maximize yield (energy from the fissile reaction). There is no reflector for reflecting neutrons since nuclear weapons are on a very fast time scale based on prompt neutrons.
 
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And how can we prevent losing neutrons with neutron capture?
 
Physicsissuef said:
And how can we prevent losing neutrons with neutron capture?

If neutrons are captured, they are lost!
 
In my book it says that we can prevent neutron loss with neutron capture. Maybe it thinks about neutron-mirrors?
 
Physicsissuef said:
In my book it says that we can prevent neutron loss with neutron capture. Maybe it thinks about neutron-mirrors?

Sounds funny. Maybe they have non-standard definitions of what neutron capture means. If not, put the book in the dustbin :bugeye:
 
Is neutron mirror that first absorb neutron and then released? After how many minutes it releases the neutron?
 
Physicsissuef said:
Is neutron mirror that first absorb neutron and then released? After how many minutes it releases the neutron?

No, a neutron mirror is a material on which neutrons scatter elastically, without being absorbed. In fact, the properties of a neutron mirror are close to those of a moderator.
 
So the only way to prevent loss of neutrons is with neutron scattering, or neutron capture of the next generation of uranium atoms in chain reaction, right?
 
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Physicsissuef said:
So the only way to prevent loss of neutrons is with neutron scattering, or neutron capture of the next generation of uranium atoms in chain reaction, right?

Yes.
 
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I heard that Tungsten carbide makes a good neutron reflector.

By the way, does anyone knows where i could get more precise data about this material, especially about Neutron reflection rates per mm thickness and so on? I consider using it for a project of mine.
 
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Delok said:
I heard that Tungsten carbide makes a good neutron reflector.

By the way, does anyone knows where i could get more precise data about this material, especially about Neutron reflection rates per mm thickness and so on? I consider using it for a project of mine.
The best reflector has a high fast removal cross-section with a low absorption cross-section. I believe W-184 has the lowest absorption cross-section of the W isotopes, and is about 30.6% of natural tungsten. One needs to look at ENDF/B data or the Barn book.

One drawback is the density. Iron has also been used as a reflector in thermal (LWRs)reactors.

I'm assuming one is referring to thermal/epithermal spectrum.
 

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