What Equation Should I Use for Calculating Total Impedance in RLC Circuits?

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The discussion revolves around calculating total impedance in RLC circuits, specifically when components are arranged in series and parallel configurations. The original poster presents two equations related to impedance and seeks clarification on their appropriate applications in different circuit examples.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand when to use each of the two equations for total impedance. They question the applicability of the equations to different examples presented in an image. Some participants clarify the definitions of the equations and their relevance to complex impedances.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, providing insights into the nature of the equations and the necessity of using complex numbers for certain calculations. There is a focus on understanding the distinctions between the equations and their applications in the given examples.

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The original poster notes a lack of experience with complex numbers in their physics coursework, which may influence their understanding of the problem. There is an emphasis on using real numbers for explanations, despite the complexity of the topic.

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Homework Statement


Hello again!

We have been given a couple of more advanced problems where the components are placed in series parallely.

Check the image, the question is regarding what equation to use, in order to calculate the total impedance of the circuit.

Homework Equations


I have stumbled upon the following equations...
Z_{tot}=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{Z_{1}}+\frac{1}{Z_{2}}}

And the same equation, only squared and partly modified

Z_{tot}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{(\frac{1}{R})^{2}+(\frac{1}{X_{L}}-\frac{1}{X_{C}})^{2}}}



The Attempt at a Solution



If you take a look at the image you will see two examples, my theory is that the second equation is valid for the first example.

But when does one use the first equation? And can the second equation be used on the second example, and vice versa?

Many thanks in advance, please do use real numbers when explaining. I am aware of the importance of complex numbers in RLC circuits we have not applied them in Physics yet.
 
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The first equation refers to the complex resultant impedance Z if two complex impedances, Z1 and Z2 are connected in parallel. The second one shows the magnitude Z of the resultant impedance of parallel connected resistor, capacitor and inductor. The identical notation is confusing.



ehild
 
ehild said:
The first equation refers to the complex resultant impedance Z if two complex impedances, Z1 and Z2 are connected in parallel. The second one shows the magnitude Z of the resultant impedance of parallel connected resistor, capacitor and inductor. The identical notation is confusing.



ehild

Thank you for the quick reply.

Yes, it is a bit confusing.

If you look at the picture (example 2), should I first calculate the part-impedances, then add them using the first equation in order to achieve the total impedance?

Thanks ehild
 

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You can not solve example 2 without using complex impedances. Yes, you need to calculate the complex Z1 and Z2 separately, then add them as complex numbers, according to the first equation.

\hat Z_1=R+iX_L

\hat Z_2=i(X_L-X_C)

The reciprocal impedances add up:

\frac{1}{\hat Z}=\frac{1}{\hat Z_1}+\frac{1}{\hat Z_2}

You get the magnitude by multiplying by the complex conjugate and then take the square root.

ehild
 

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