What exactly is Advanced Calculus?

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The discussion revolves around the concept and content of a course titled "Advanced Calculus," as described in various academic institutions. Participants explore the expectations, scope, and differences in curriculum related to this course, touching on topics such as real analysis, calculus foundations, and the transition from computational to theoretical mathematics.

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  • Some participants suggest that "Advanced Calculus" serves as a bridge between traditional calculus and real analysis.
  • There is a claim that the course content may vary significantly by institution, with some offering it as an introduction to real analysis while others may treat it as multivariable calculus.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the textbook used in the course to understand its focus and depth.
  • Another participant outlines that the course will involve rigorous proofs and theorems, moving beyond mere calculation to a deeper understanding of mathematical concepts.
  • Some participants mention specific theorems considered essential in advanced calculus, such as the inverse/implicit function theorem, Fubini's theorem, and Stokes' theorem.
  • There is a discussion about the foundational aspects of the real number system and the treatment of sequences and limits in the course.
  • Concerns are raised that not all textbooks may adequately cover the construction of real numbers from integers.

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Participants express varying views on the nature and content of "Advanced Calculus," indicating that there is no consensus on its definition or curriculum. Some agree on its connection to real analysis, while others highlight the differences in course offerings across institutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the course may have prerequisites and that its content can depend on institutional definitions and the specific textbooks used, which may not always align with the expectations of a traditional advanced calculus course.

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This discussion may be useful for students considering enrolling in an Advanced Calculus course, educators designing curriculum, and anyone interested in the transition from calculus to more theoretical mathematics.

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What exactly is "Advanced Calculus?"

My school lists this class with the description of:

Advanced Calculus I
"real numbers, completeness, continuity, sequences/series, uniform theorems, derivative, pointwise/uniform convergence, Riemann integral, Taylor's theorem."

as the description what can i expect from it?
 
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...is this a trick question? The course description doesn't seem very ambigious.
 


What kind of answer do you expect from us? Advanced calculus seems to be like a bridge between calculus and real analysis...
 


MathWarrior said:
My school lists this class with the description of:

Advanced Calculus I
"real numbers, completeness, continuity, sequences/series, uniform theorems, derivative, pointwise/uniform convergence, Riemann integral, Taylor's theorem."

as the description what can i expect from it?

I would find out what textbook they use for the class. That will tell you most of what you need to know.

In some places, Advanced Calculus is actually multivariable calculus. In others, it's an introduction to real analysis. In others (for instance, my institution) there is an easier "introduction to analysis course," and then advanced calculus is what you take if 1) you've taken an introductory analysis course or 2) you don't need the introductory course.

EDIT: from the unambiguous description, yours sounds like an "introduction to analysis" variety.
 


I agree. That stuff is taught in elementary calculus some places (like my honors calc class). Real advanced calculus is (ACCORDING TO SPivak) three theorems:

1) the inverse/implicit function theorem,
2) Fubini's theorem, and
3) stokes theorem

/as i recall. oh yes and it helps a lot to know about differential forms.
 


micromass said:
What kind of answer do you expect from us? Advanced calculus seems to be like a bridge between calculus and real analysis...

fss said:
...is this a trick question? The course description doesn't seem very ambigious.

Yes, I felt the same way that is why I asked.

holomorphic said:
I would find out what textbook they use for the class. That will tell you most of what you need to know.

Looks like they use a book on intro to analysis.
 
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MathWarrior said:
Looks like they use a book on intro to analysis.

So in Calc I-III you learned how to do calculus (ie. you learned how to take a limit, take a derivative and take an integral). Now you learn how calculus actually works. You begin with building up the real number from the integers, then you learn how sequences work, learn what the limit of a sequence is (rigorously), how to prove (not just calculate) if a sequence has a limit, learn about continuous function, proving limits of continuous functions and eventually leading up to differentiation and integration.

You do all these things in the context of Axioms, Theorems, and Proofs. Basically, instead of calculating you now work on PROVING.
 
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hitmeoff said:
So in Calc I-III you learned how to do calculus (ie. you learned how to take a limit, take a derivative and take an integral). Now you learn how calculus actually works. You begin with building up the real number from the integers, then you learn how sequences work, learn what the limit of a sequence is (rigorously), how to prove (not just calculate) if a sequence has a limit, learn about continuous function, proving limits of continuous functions and eventually leading up to differentiation and integration.

You do all these things in the context of Axioms, Theorems, and Proofs. Basically, instead of calculating you now work on PROVING.

A significant number of books don't bother building the reals from the integers.
 


hitmeoff said:
You do all these things in the context of Axioms, Theorems, and Proofs. Basically, instead of calculating you now work on PROVING.
I thought this is what you do in Calc I - III anyway :smile:
 
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MathWarrior said:
My school lists this class with the description of:

Advanced Calculus I
"real numbers, completeness, continuity, sequences/series, uniform theorems, derivative, pointwise/uniform convergence, Riemann integral, Taylor's theorem."

as the description what can i expect from it?

My university has a course with a description that's very similar; it's called Introduction to Analysis (Math 310). It is a recommended pre-requisite for many of the junior and senior level mathematics courses.
 
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My university has Intermediate Analysis and Advanced Multivariable Calculus.
MATH 3333: Intermediate Analysis
Cr. 3. (3-0). Prerequisite: MATH 2433. Properties of real number system, properties of continuous functions, and sequences of functions.

MATH 3334: Advanced Multivariable Calculus
Cr. 3. (3-0). Prerequisite: MATH 3333. Topology of n-space; continuity, uniform continuity and uniform convergence; extremal problems; Taylor's theorem for multivariate functions; multiple integrals; transformations and their derivatives; implicit functions.

MATH 4331;4332: Introduction to Real Analysis
Cr. 3 per semester. (3-0). Prerequisite: MATH 3334 or consent of instructor. Properties of continuous functions, partial differentiation, line integrals, improper integrals, infinite series, and Stieltjes integrals.
 

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